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To: Yosemitest

Not a pilot.

But did do around 20 landings at SFO in 2008 - most in 737s.

Always smooth and easy landings at SFO.

Comparing the flightaware data to AF flight that is also a 777 it look like you have called it.

Asiana:

37.5900 -122.3070 297° West 169 194 1,400 -1,380 Descending
37.5988 -122.3270 299° West 145 167 800 -1,380 Descending
37.6016 -122.3340 297° West 141 162 600 -1,320 Descending
37.6045 -122.3410 298° West 134 154 400 -900 Descending
37.6073 -122.3480 297° West 123 142 300 -840 Descending
37.6103 -122.3550 298° West 109 125 100 -120 Descending
37.6170 -122.3740 294° West 85 98 200 120 Climbing e

AF 84:

37.5790 -122.2790 300° West 187 215 1,600 -1,200 Descending
37.5890 -122.3030 298° West 156 180 1,200 -1,080 Descending
37.5940 -122.3150 298° West 149 171 900 -900 Descending
37.6020 -122.3360 296° West 145 167 600 -840 Descending
37.6070 -122.3470 300° West 140 161 300 -1,080 Descending
37.6150 -122.3660 298° West 125 144 -720 Descending
37.6170 -122.3710 297° West 82 94

Links:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AAR214/history/20130706/0730Z/RKSI/KSFO/tracklog

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AFR84/history/20130702/0835Z/LFPG/KSFO/tracklog


738 posted on 07/06/2013 8:13:23 PM PDT by bluecat6 ("All non-denial denials. They doubt our ancestry, but they don't say the story isn't accurate. ")
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To: bluecat6
I was in the tower at Osan AB ROK and saw a similar situation with a stretch DC-8.
He landed about 3,000 feet from landing threshold on a 9,000 ft runway.
He hit the brakes too hard, blew the right main tires and the wheel assembly rolled under the strut and left the aluminum /magnesium, strut scrubbing the runway.
It flamed up over the side and top of the fuselage until he came to a stop as he hung and drug out the departure end BAK-12 cable..
Everyone got out okay, but they had to jack the plane up and tow it off the runway.
I had several young inexperienced controllers I had to give a talking to, after it was over, about controlling their own voice tone and excitement level, so the pilots don't also panic.
750 posted on 07/06/2013 8:53:29 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: bluecat6
What I'd like to know is the compression rate and control instructions from the air traffic controllers starting with his descent from SF Center, through SF TRACON to the handoff to the tower.
Did the controllers keep him high in altitude and not allow enough of a descent rate due to traffic departing under him (the four-post operation of a busy TRACON)?
And did the controllers keep his speed up with their control instructions, until too short of a final when they handed him off to the tower, and not allow him time to bleed off the airspeed, due to the arrival rate of aircraft they were shoe-stringing down final at that time?
764 posted on 07/06/2013 11:38:43 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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