Posted on 06/23/2013 6:59:11 AM PDT by iowamark
Rubio cannot leave politics soon enough to suit me , I hope Allan West Primary’s him.
Any Republican who votes for this POS is a traitor and needs to be sent packing! McCain, McRubio, McGrahamnesty, McFlake, et al, can all go straight to hell!
The biggest hole I see with the “amnesty” bill, is the one which isn’t apparent, and which is certain to come up shortly after the bill passes, if it does.
The hole is the number of years. So, the number of years mentioned before someone becomes legal, might be 11 years.
But, soon after the bill passes, there will be millions of illegals and thousands of liberal legislators, including all of the liberal members in congress, and the president, who will look to speed up the process. The excuse for speeding it up will be along the line of, “well, we will be legalizing them in 11 years, so, what’s the problem with speeding up the process?”. Then there will be new bills introduced to cut the years to 5 or 3 or 1, or even none. If we accepted that those 11 million (no doubt many millions more) could be legal in 11 years, the logic for rushing for quicker amnesty, will be logical to most who are now in approval of the bill. And so, amnesty will be with us a lot quicker than most people had expected, and the current bill will have been just a stepping stone to almost immediate amnesty.
Yep. So true. It is part of the liberal mindset, the analogy to: “We can’t stop certain types of behavior, so we need to guide it and make it as safe as possible.”
In this case, liberals will highlight the “personal costs” incurred by those coming over the border, how dangerous it is, how useless it is to build fences, etc. as a justification for speeding up the process.
We will be making people needlessly suffer with our laws, you know.
I was going to post something along the same lines, but...your Peanuts poster hit it on the head.
It is hard to believe they are going to pass this, but they will.
Compromising with evil is accepting evil. Even more so when you know what the outcome will be in advance.
When this Bill passes, in any form, Obama will have succeeded in fundamentally transforming America.
This is the final hump, it will be all downhill from here, unstoppable from a political perspective, IMO.
I watched Atlas Shrugged II last night, it is all there, and happening right before our eyes.
I have just decided a sound border fence is not a good idea.
The way things are going it would likely soon be used to keep us in rather than keep others out. A better idea, IMO, is to use the electronic system by which people can absolutely not get a job or benefits or healthcare without being a citizen. That in itself could possibly be interpreted as the mark of the beast. We have to be careful here, but I don’t want big sis locking us in like with the Berlin Wall.
The common thread I get from all of this is that if Mexico's economy was conducive to employing their citizens then they wouldn't come into the U.S.
But the problem with Mexico is corruption and no real jobs for the less educated.
And forget the...
"You got to let us pass the bill in order to see what's in it" bullshit is NOT going to fly this time.
The border states could force the fed’s hand in this by asking for volunteers to defend their state against invasion. I’m sure they’d get plenty of helpers!
Article I, Section 10 declares that no state may “engage in War, unless actually invaded ...” which certainly seems to be the case here.
There are tons of issues, including Constitutional questions, involved with militia call-ups and/or National Guard deployments. If a governor sent the National Guard to the border, the President could step in and call them back, which wouldn’t help the state but would make for some interesting headlines!
But what about the “Irregular” militia, e.g. volunteers? Couldn’t the states call for volunteers, give them a week or two of training, appoint officers and non-coms (maybe from the National Guard?) then send them to stand guard over the border?
If Rubio & Co. adamantly refuse to secure the border, there are other ways ...
A big part of our problem is that we have elected officials who do not have core beliefs or convictions, they will run as a “Conservative Republican” because that’s the brand more likely to win in some areas, they just want the job.
The GOP is the Seinfeld Party....a party about nothing.
Berlin wall??? How many people are clamoring to flee to Mexico? A border fence bears no resemblance to the Berlin wall.
So all illegal immigrants are Hispanic?
I used to the topography of the Maginot Line because it's what we have now.
A border fence bears no resemblance to the Berlin wall.”
Not now, but things could change to the point you may feel the need to escape. The fence could keep us in as well as it could keep others out. I do not trust our government at all.
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