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1 posted on 12/26/2012 9:22:07 PM PST by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Is this another Barone prediction?

2 posted on 12/26/2012 9:29:21 PM PST by Patrick1 (“Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity.”)
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To: neverdem

In recent history and in both cases, if ya run a Massachusetts liberal as president, your gonna lose.

3 posted on 12/26/2012 9:31:46 PM PST by Theoria
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To: neverdem

Romney never articulated a reason for the independent middle to support him. Obama, who had no message at all, won that segment with Sandra Fluke and free birth control pills.

4 posted on 12/26/2012 9:37:17 PM PST by Baynative
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To: neverdem
Considering what happened in Bush's second term, that suggests a course of caution and wariness for the re-elected president and his party.

Obama doesn't care. In his mind, he only needed to win by one electoral vote to get the win and a mandate to do whatever he pleases.

5 posted on 12/26/2012 9:43:56 PM PST by Major Matt Mason ("Journalism is dead. All news is suspect." - Noamie)
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To: neverdem

This country is full of morons who feel affection for politicians they don’t remotely know.

7 posted on 12/26/2012 9:47:24 PM PST by Crucial (Tolerance at the expense of equal treatment is the path to tyranny.)
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To: neverdem
For what it is worth, I was certainly inspired to vote against the O’Bummer. Romney was not my first (or second, or third) choice for a candidate, but I thought he did OK (given a hostile media that took a blood oath to function as the Praetorian Guard for the Won). ... But truth be known, I probably would have also been inspired to vote for a cardboard cutout.
8 posted on 12/26/2012 9:50:00 PM PST by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: neverdem

ORCA beached itself on election day, NARWHAL showed up for work. That was the difference.

9 posted on 12/26/2012 9:54:16 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: neverdem

Many of us said the Mormon problem alone was worth 3%, but we were ridiculed as bigots.

10 posted on 12/26/2012 9:57:14 PM PST by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: neverdem
The difference was the white vote. They were 74% of 131.3M voters in 2008 vs 72% of 128.8M in 2012. That works out to 97.2M white votes in 2008 vs 92.7M in 2012 - a loss of 4.5M.

Obama lost 5.6M whites votes in 2012. Romney gained 1.3M white votes over McCain.

Does anyone else thing that stat sticks out like a sore thumb? I don't hear it discussed much among the pundits.

19 posted on 12/26/2012 10:19:24 PM PST by Ken H
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To: neverdem

Here’s what I find, Mike, you were 100% wrong and I’ll never read another word you write.

20 posted on 12/26/2012 10:22:50 PM PST by John W (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: neverdem

Michael is being cautious this time. This is nothing more than analysis-lite of numbers.

24 posted on 12/26/2012 10:26:22 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: All

We voted. That wasn't the problem. Of course it was voter fraud.

Surely no one believes America voted to reelect the Marxist/Muslim usurper- the worst president in American history?

Can't you just imagine the above was the scene with Obama and his Commie staff after stealing the election through voter fraud- while Conservatives blame Romney, argue, point fingers, blather on about who to run in four years, 'starting a new party', and try to figure out how to suck up to minorities the 'next time'?

Next time? What makes them think the massive voter fraud in this last farce of an election won't be repeated? If we don't clean up our voting system, there may not be a next time. We may not see another Republican president in our lifetime

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Map from Barack Obama Voter Fraud 2012

What most refuse to acknowledge is that it was unlikely that ANYBODY could have beaten the voter fraud planned and perpetrated by the criminal Obama machine. They seem to prefer pointing fingers, blaming Romney and blathering on about who to run in 2016 and how to suck up to the minorities.

>Polls indicated that Romney was going to win the election.

>The economy is close to Great Depression era conditions, and unemployment is almost as high as when Obama entered office.

>Economic conditions became so dire after Obama took office it prompted the rise of an entire new movement, the Tea Party.

>Presidents rarely win reelection when the economy is in the tank.

>Mitt knew it too, when he was met by several thousand in that parking garage cheering him when he arrived unannounced at that airport, and he put his hand over his heart and said, 'This is how you know you've won'.

So how did Romney lose a race that numerous reputable polls and pundits predicted would be an easy win, based on historical patterns?

Massive voter fraud.

That and no other reason

Almost every major Conservative website has put out an article charging voter fraud- Breitbart, American Thinker, Atlas Shrugs, WND, The Blaze, Front Page Magazine, Fox News, The Daily Caller, Town Hall, Human Events, Canada Free Press...

We cannot wait for 2014 and 2016 to regroup and figure out new strategies. By then it will be too late. The Marxist/Muslim usurper will have completed his planned distruction of America. That's what people fail to understand.

We must act NOW.

Start with the election. If we let the Rats get away with this massive voter fraud, we're no better than a bananna republic.

We must keep digging and pounding him every day, in every way we can- phony birth certificate, Benghazi, Fast and Furious, his hidden life, records....


Col Allen West; "I don't want to see America become like Zimbabwe where people don’t trust their electoral process. If we cannot trust the integrity of the voting system then we are no longer a free republic".

Col West has opened the door.

We must fight election fraud.

It falls on ‘We the People’.

Silence is consent


The website,'Barack Obama Vote Fraud 2012' is keeping a running account of cases of voter fraud and what to do about it:

Visit the site- Here



Photo of SOMALIANS brought to Ohio voting stations by the busload, 95% of whom did not speak English, and told to vote for Obama, straight Dem ticket- Here

'Human Events', report pollwatcher eyewitness to busload of Somalians at Ohio poll, spoke no English, told to vote Obama Here

Republican pole watchers; busloads of Somalians brought in Here

THE JEWISH TASK FORCE makes a excellent case that Mitt defeated Obama in 2012, if not for fraud. Here

Another poll watcher observes voter fraud Here

Spanish Company Associated w/Geo. Soros Will “Count” America's Votes Overseas In November Here


WND List of voter fraud reports Here
ATLAS SHRUGS voter fraud list. Here

Hannity and Col Allan West slam voter fraud on 'Hannity' after the election Nov 12- Here


Believe it or not, there ARE patriots out there who are going to FIGHT Obama's reelection- unlike the spineless Republicans who remain silent!

Visit the website; 'The Competent Conservative'


'These elections are NOT certified yet. The only way to get this investigated, much less recounted or overturned, is through the Secretary of State of each of the five key states: Florida, Virginia, Ohio, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin. EVEN IF YOU ARE IN ANOTHER STATE you can help. But it won’t do any good to dilute our effort to challenge California or Michigan or other states. Until a major group gets involved to do more, here is the plan: Contact the Secretary of State of the state in question. See contact information below... '

Visit the website, 'Halt Voter Fraud':


'This election is not over - YET. Obama has not been elected by the Electoral College - YET. The Presidential election is being stolen from us with "Chicago Style" thuggery - and we can STOP the thieves in their tracks. But we do not have time on our side. This is our LAST chance. Don't give up. We must act now.

If massive voter fraud has occured as alleged by so many, and if the state vote counts include these FRAUDULENT votes, then is it logical to say that the entire state vote is COMPROMISED and can't be trusted? 59,000,000 Americans might agree!

The state vote is used to determine the allocation of Electors in the Electoral College which actually elects the President and Vice President.

If the vote count is FRAUDULENT, FLAWED, and CAN'T BE TRUSTED - and if the Electors have been FRAUDULENTLY allocated based on FLAWED vote counts - then WE CANNOT ALLOW THE GOVERNORS TO SIGN THEIR CERTIFICATES of ASCERTAINMENT on December 17th. We can stop this if we ACT IMMEDIATELY.


Patriots must rally NOW in the State Capitols of Harrisburg,PA - Richmond, VA - Tallahassee, FL - Columbus, OH, and Madison, WI ****** MASSIVE RALLIES ** *** PATRIOT LEADERS ORGANIZE YOUR LOCAL EFFORTS NOW, coordinate with the other PATRIOT groups as they also rally, let us know who you are and how you will respond, how we can help.

Remember the Battle of Trenton?

We can make HISTORY TODAY.'

More- Here


Obama Voter Fraud on FaceBook- Here


Sign this petition- almost 117,000 and counting -cards, email- Here

Sign the ‘We The People’ petition. It has 60,000 signatures and counting- Here

Click and sign the petition for a recount Here-


Must watch videos!

VIDEO-- Programmer Testifies About Rigging Elections With Vote Counting- Here

VIDEO- Illegal Aliens Caught Voting and Stealing Elections In Florida In Vast Numbers- Here

VIDEO- MICHAEL SAVAGE: How Obama fixed the 2012 election- Here

VIDEO- Massive voter fraud discovered in April- Here

VIDEO- Whistle blower speaks out about voter fraud- Here


Voter fraud from Tea Party: Here

The American Dream- 22 Signs That Voter Fraud Is Wildly Out Of Control And The Election Was A Sham: Here

Town Hall : Obama Likely Won The Election Through Voter Fraud: Here

American Thinker: Was The Election Stolen:? Here

WSVN-TV Almost 1K Ballots Found In Broward Elections Warehouse: Here

Pundit Press; In Florida Obama Got Over 99% In Broward County Precincts: Here

Natural 19,605 to Zero IS Statistical Proof Of Outright Vote Fraud in 2012 Presidential Election: Here

Realville, USA: The Great Election Robbery of 2012? Here

WND: Here's How Touchscreens Killed Romney Votes: Here

The American Dream: Election Fraud? Obama Won More Than 99% Of The Vote in More Than 100 Ohio Precincrs: Here

WND: The Big List Of Voter Fraud Reports: Here

Nachum's List of Voter Fraud: Here


Newt Gingrich 360: Here

Appalachian Forums: Here

Before It's News: Here

WND: Here

Political Outcast: Here

True The Vote: Here

Fox News Insider: Here

Human Events; Here

The Will County News: Here

Fox News: Here

WND: Here

Townhall: Here

Breitbart Here

Accuracy In Media The Left's national voter fraud strategy exposed: Here

Thousands of military votes uncounted or missing: Here

Human Events: Here

Front Page Magazine: Here

The Blaze Here

The Daily Caller: Here

Front Page Magazine Here

Military Voter Protection Project: Here

BreitBart Here

Townhall: Here

Fox News Here

The Blaze Here


The best Obama Exposure site on the net, The Obama File: Here

The United StatesLibrary of Congress has selected for inclusion in its historic collection of Internet materials Here

43 posted on 12/26/2012 11:51:38 PM PST by patriot08 (NATIVE TEXAN (girl type))
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To: neverdem

Expecting voters to know what’s going on and their reliance on MSM is just part of why our great loss. While there are examples of fraud which may close up the gap, the gap is too big to blame the loss on fraud ...Expecting GOP E’s to address media bias or Romney to call Obama a congenital liar or even point out that the fact and figures released by the white house were allways questionable is another Let alone call him a “socialist”..

But the fault lies really in the messaging the Republican campaign came up with choking on political correctness or triping over past positions on global warming and Romneycare both of which were bread and butter issues. .Then busy responding to pseudo positions devised by the demo-com party and echoed by their hand maiden camp followers in the media allowing them to set the agenda ..

Romney ran a “Johnny One Note Campaign”. Used a poison dart blow gun when he should have used a cannon loaded with grape shot because he had pleanty of stuff he could fill that cannon barrel with..

They failed to hammer away on what will happen when Obama gets returned; The Obama past due 2013/14 Tax Increases. The impact of Obama’s gagging energy.resources.(a socialist construct never branded as such) with policies requiring reliance on intermittent sources wind and solar and that resulting in massive corruption .,restricted use of drilling, and coal ,bans and on fracking, and resulting prices doubling on everything.. This was a bread and butter issue which reached into every “demographics” pocketbook including accepting the demo-com definition of hyphenated African-Hispanic -Americans . .The impact of Supreme Court Appointments.. 18,000 new IRS agents and on and on. .

Some were very briefly touched most weren’t and Benghazi/ foreign policy was left to languish. Then there is Obama’s personal extravagance and behavior refusing to visit Nashville after its disaster showing up at New Orleans after Mitt visited it. Even after the Christi thing if that was brought up it would have blunted the impact.

Instead we got a sales pitch on executive ability but not the reason why one should toss the old model and buy his. That print and tv pitch , 20 million new jobs, was given a discrarded dose of skepticism .

In addition Rove who I understand was handling the Charter PAC senate campaign played games. His material never warned voters that IF OBAMA GETS RE-ELECTED AND SENATE CONTROL REMAINED . .. OBAMACARE AND ALL THE TAX INCREASES THAT GO WITH IT WILL NEVER GET REPEALED Let alone tie into or cover the formentioned grape shot which would have perhaps changed that body. I don’t recall any of that material directed toward that fact.

Finally they didn’t believe the polls which turned out were dead on. Even going as far as setting up focus groups which could have looked into what’s going on . Even to the point of going out to local eateries and bars and eavesdrop into conversations and pick up on topics being discussed.(chat rooms twitter too contrived) They would have learned their turnout projections were off and the sence of urgency to get out the vote was diminished by their glowing projections and disbelief never mind ORCA which should have been tested. COMPLACENCY WAS ENCOURAGED BY THE MEDIA AND NOT COUNTER ACTED UPON

Our local small population (-8000) rural blue county GOP had at the outset good and growing attendence at their meetings 50 plus. At the meeting the Thursday before the election only about a dozen people showed up and I knew we were in trouble .

Nuts...This loss is inexcuseable, while I trully don’t believe Mitt Romney would ever continence losing, I’m begining to believe that most GOPE’s really didn’t want to see AHCA, (affordable health care act) otherwise known as ZerO care go ..excerpted from “Why We Lost”

51 posted on 12/27/2012 2:48:46 AM PST by mosesdapoet ("A voice crying in the wilderness make streight for the way of the Lord")
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To: neverdem
BS- I saw lines like never before where I vote

NotObamney had people willing to crawl over glass to vote

I think votes were lost or stolen

There were some places where Obama got over 100% of the vote

It is harder to manufacture votes for someone than it is to delete votes for the opposition- how do you prove your vote was NOT counted?

This is why the polls were all skewed +10% democrap- they knew that they were planning to do beforehand

63 posted on 12/27/2012 5:29:51 AM PST by Mr. K (There are lies, dammed lies, statistics, and democrap talking points.)
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To: neverdem

I am a bible believing conservative Christian who voted for the lesser of two evils. It seems that their are just too many low information voters who are becoming useful idiots of the state as they refuse the right ways of Christ and pursue the vanities of a dying world system run by Satan and all the fools whom follow the monster who hates all mankind equally.
There but for the grace of God in Christ Jesus go all the saved sinner Saints created by God in Christ image.

68 posted on 12/27/2012 6:13:57 AM PST by kindred (Jesus Christ is the Lord God Messiah t of Israel, a present help in time of trouble.)
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To: neverdem

Once the little convention in Tampa ended, we kept hearing how Romney was “really” going to start campaigning in earnest. We are still waiting.

70 posted on 12/27/2012 6:48:02 AM PST by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: neverdem

Sarah Palin would have defeated this Obama communist monster so easily , if only she had run. what about it Sarah, ready now?

71 posted on 12/27/2012 7:45:58 AM PST by Democrat_media (media makes mass shooters household names to create more & take our guns)
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To: neverdem
Defeat is what the GOP deserves when it puts a bland, pasty faced, milquetoast that refused to “punch” his opponent in the face with his record, speak out against the libel and lies that were spread against him and could not articulate a conservative vision for himself or the country. Strenuous Conservative is not good enough and oh by the way when the left is going after your wife about her MS treatments you should get pissed of and rip the liberals a new one. You don't avoid talk radio venues as well. You go to black, Korean, Mexican areas and spread conservative. Don't shy away from the truth you were wrong about the 47% it is now 51% but you showed cowardice by backing down. Also stop using advisors that have never won a presidential election e.g. Rove, Schmidt and others.
75 posted on 12/27/2012 1:40:50 PM PST by Warrior Nurse (Soldier, family ,conservative and proud because that is what America needs in order to thrive)
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