In the following release from the Romney Campaign, we discover that Romney has coerced Ryan ALREADY on abortion:
"Governor Romney and Congressman (Paul) Ryan disagree with Mr. Akin's statement, and a Romney-Ryan administration would not oppose abortion in instances of rape," Romney spokeswoman Amanda Henneberg said.
Then we learn that Romney supports abortion not just in rape cases but also in incest cases:
found that while Romney backed abortions in cases of incest and rape, Ryan did not.
Now we know why Romney did not sign that pro-life pledge.
And we also discover that Right to Life, in endorsing Romney, has violated their own standards.
In short, those are loopholes so large that you could drive a fleet of trucks through them. Because it all depends on how you define those words.
Rape: "spousal rape"? "date rape"? Is rape rape just because someone says it's rape?
Incest: a consenting adult practitioners of incest really not responsible for the life of a conceived child? Is incest to be strictly defined as 1st cousin or closer? Or is 4th, 5th, 16th cousins eligible if the claim is simply "incest"?
1 posted on
08/20/2012 5:18:06 AM PDT by
xzins
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To: xzins
A detestable topic all around.
71 posted on
08/20/2012 7:00:01 AM PDT by
HereInTheHeartland
(Encourage all of your Democrat friends to get out and vote on November 7th, the stakes are high.)
To: xzins; Gilbo_3; stephenjohnbanker; DoughtyOne; NFHale; Impy; LMAO; mkjessup; org.whodat; ...
Since Todd Akin is mentioned in the first line I must point out that fools like him give a huge Christmas present to those who want to fund abortion with tax money. There is no doubt in my mind that Republicans will run away from the abortion issue as fast as possible after this self nuke on himself and his won side.
As to Romney, There is a misconception by many here (and on Republican TV) that Ryan was chosen to make Romney more conservative. Ryan was chosen to allow Romney to run left after the primary and to govern from the (center) left.
How can he do this?? Because we are told ‘ he is an proved conservative that no one questions his credentials’. Isn't that we keep being fed by Republicans? And Dems say he's an extremist. How can ya not trust a guy who they call that?
81 posted on
08/20/2012 7:47:06 AM PDT by
sickoflibs
(Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
To: xzins
Hey Akin: Thanks a lot for snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory....
To: xzins
Let's be real....There have been thousands of children born "supposedly" of rape and incest and there are STILL back doors for abortions if you have enough money.
While rape and incest are abominable, how many can actually be proved as being "forced"...And if it can be proved...the dude belongs in jail. But THAT rarely to never happens.....Women will lie and dude will move on...
To: xzins
Rape, woman’s issues, Romney’s tax returns, etc. are all Obama diversions from what will give the GOP victory in 11/2012.
Keep your eye on the ball, lack of jobs, lack of economic growth, big government regulations holding back business expansion and spending to grow, six trillion more in federal debt, etc. The GOP platform has been and will be pro-life, so don’t fall for Obama’s tricks.
89 posted on
08/20/2012 8:32:03 AM PDT by
RicocheT
(Eat the rich only if you're certain it's your last meal)
To: xzins
In my view there is an easy, universal barometer we can use to evaluate all cultures: how do they treat their most vulnerable members...those whom Jesus so aptly referred to as 'the least of these'? I would go so far as to say that a society that does not...defend the defenseless, [protect] all human life, is really not a civilized society after all. As for all my pro-choice friends out there, we can agree to disagree...and keep on arguing (until I win). Bobby Jindal, from Leadership and Crisis
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SANTORUM: Well, you can make the argument that if she doesnt have this baby, if she kills her child, that that, too, could ruin her life...As horrible as the way that that son or daughter was created, it still is her child. And whether she has that child or doesnt, it will always be her child. And she will always know that. And so to embrace her and to love her and to support her and get her through this very difficult time, Ive always, you know, I believe and I think the right approach is to accept...what God has given to you.
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MR. RUSSERT: But you said you would ban all abortions.
GOV. HUCKABEE: Well, that's not just because I'm a Christian, that's because I'm an American. Our founding fathers said that we're all created equal. I think every person has intrinsic worth and value...
MR. RUSSERT: But many Americans believe that that would be, that would be you imposing your faith belief...
GOV. HUCKABEE: But, no. It's not a faith belief. It's deeper than that. It's a human belief. It goes to the heart of who we are as a civilization. If I believe that your intrinsic worth is not changed by your ancestry, your last name, by your IQ, by your abilities or disabilities, if I value your life and respect it with dignity and worth because it is human, then that's what draws me to the inescapable conclusion that I should be for the sanctity of every and each human life...
Get out, Paul Ryan,
while you still can.please .. just leave ...
96 posted on
08/20/2012 8:47:30 AM PDT by
mlizzy
(And if we accept that a mother can kill even her own child, how can we tell others not to kill? --MT)
To: xzins
Obama wants abortions as contraception at will for everyone paid for with tax dollars.
100 posted on
08/20/2012 9:02:40 AM PDT by
Domandred
(Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
To: xzins; Nervous Tick; Daveinyork; Woodsman27; COBOL2Java; ArrogantBustard; Titus-Maximus; ...
xzins: Romney supports both rape & incest abortion? Did Ronald Reagan also support abortion?
Approximately 10-12 MILLION babies were aborted in the US during Reagan's term, while he was appointing SD OConnor and promoting statist GOPe GHW Bush for president (The trend only started down during GHW Bush's term, and then got even better under "pro-abortion" Clinton).
Whether Romney "supports" abortion or not, it will not change the trends which suggest that there would be at least 6-7 million babies aborted from 2012-2020 regardless of who's the president. 30-40% less than when Reagan "opposed" abortion.
Does that matter, or is it just important for you to assist Obama in publicly funding infanticide with Obamacare?
Reagan was the best conservative presidential candidate we've seen in our lifetime, would you really vote for Ronald Reagan today against Obama, based on the record?
113 posted on
08/20/2012 10:02:28 AM PDT by
sam_paine
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To: xzins
114 posted on
08/20/2012 10:05:34 AM PDT by
skinkinthegrass
(WA DC E$tabli$hment; DNC/RNC/Unionists...Brazilian saying: "$@me Old $hit; w/ different flie$" :^)
To: xzins
this feels like the Lord putting the sin and crime of convenience abortion front and center. Akin needs to ride this dragon for us conservatives.
121 posted on
08/20/2012 10:26:32 AM PDT by
dadfly
To: xzins
Anyone had better get used to this if they are going to support Romney being elected.
Romney and his establishment buddies want to eliminate social conservatism from the party. That will happen if Romney is elected and knows that social conservatives will vote for him no matter what, which is what most are doing.
Stupidity and the lesser-of-two-evils nonsense is killing the conservative movement.
129 posted on
08/20/2012 10:37:59 AM PDT by
Kazan
(Mitt Romney: The greater of two evils)
To: xzins
131 posted on
08/20/2012 10:39:56 AM PDT by
2ndDivisionVet
(You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
To: xzins
this blogger is full of it!
James Rowen’s blog is part of our Purple Wisconsin project. Rowen is a political writer and environmental consultant who has had careers in journalism and public service.
To: xzins
Barack Obama supports letting babies that survive botched abortions to die gasping for air for hours and hours without any aid or assistance as he is unwilling to concede that is a living breathing human being.
But don’t let your hate of Romney get in the way of supporting a genuine antiChrist demon.
157 posted on
08/20/2012 12:27:58 PM PDT by
a fool in paradise
(Only Obama put a dog on the roof of his mouth. Dogs are friends, not food.)
To: xzins
Ok so A) they oppose abortion because it is the taking of innocent human life, but B) it’s ok to take innocent human life depending on the manner of conception.
Real consistency there.
162 posted on
08/20/2012 1:03:46 PM PDT by
big'ol_freeper
("Evil is powerless if the good are unafraid" ~ Ronald Wilson Reagan)
To: xzins
Shhhh...You’ll be called an Obama voter if you tell the truth about Romney’s stance on abortion. Just say “more gruel, please” and shuffle along.
To: xzins
Support for abortion after rape is overwhelmingly popular. No candidate can be elected to statewide or national office who even THINKS about questioning it.
Them's the facts, and Romney and his people presumably know it.
178 posted on
08/20/2012 3:15:57 PM PDT by
Jim Noble
(Diseases desperate grown are by desperate appliance relieved or not at all.)
To: xzins
How much better for the victims of rape to go ahead and have the child and put it up for adoption. I have a dear friend whose son was born because she was raped.
She is Catholic, her son is currently a practicing non-denominationalist, but he takes care of her — giving her rides, having her for dinner, etc.
BTW, pray for this son that he may come to the fullness of belief, amen.
180 posted on
08/20/2012 3:17:47 PM PDT by
Salvation
("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
To: xzins
214 posted on
08/20/2012 6:31:57 PM PDT by
OldEarlGray
(The POTUS is FUBAR until the White Hut is sanitized with American Tea)
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bump
How about we make sure the cases were real rape or incest by making sure the perp was arrested and prosecuted??
I know the left would never go for that
252 posted on
08/21/2012 6:32:02 PM PDT by
GeronL
(The Right to Life came before the Right to Pursue Happiness)
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