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To: Finny

Thanks for your assessment, Finny. But you don’t know a thing about me and what I may or may not fear. I’ve been in this game a long time and I can honestly say that it’s the small picture voters - as you profess to be - that ultimately water down the system. Not the other way around. I know exactly who and what Romney is. I also know that when a majority is gained by conservatives in the house and senate that an Obama presidency would not allow itself to be over ridden without spilling oceans of media driven conservative blood creating conditions for another full scale apathy turn over. Only with a big R (even in a wish wash and wear suit) president can we turn back the tide and survive from one administration cycle to the next.

Vote independent if you like. Your vote is valuable. Maybe you can get a true blue conservative revolution or third party started. But we’re talking about what’s real and what’s now. We have to deal with the national stage that’s been set. Maybe the convention will change things - who knows. But I will, as always, take the long view on what I must do.


89 posted on 07/30/2012 1:19:10 PM PDT by FormerRep
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To: FormerRep
But you don’t know a thing about me and what I may or may not fear.

False.

92 posted on 07/30/2012 2:35:09 PM PDT by Finny (A deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. Voting for Romney to avoid Obama is just that.)
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To: FormerRep
It's rich that you refer to "small picture voters." The small picture is ABO -- not looking beyond, not looking at the price (not to mention the illusion) of voting "against" Obama.

FWIW, I've voted in every major and every mid term election since 1976, and I have voted exclusively Republican ticket. 2012 will be the first time in my life I will ever have declined the Republican on any ballot, let alone at the top of the ticket. This is a hard thing for me to do, and it will take considerably more courage than voting for Romney would take, as voting for Romney is the easy path of least resistance.

I know a lot of people who've "been in this game a long time," some are idiots and some are pretty smart. So your bona fides on that count are moot. I doubt you're an idiot; I'm certain you're afraid, otherwise you wouldn't be voting for Romney IF you "know exactly who and what Romney is."

WHY exactly are you voting for him, if you know who and what he is? What could make you vote for a politicain who has advanced state-run health care, tax-funded abortion, full embrace of the homosexual agenda, global warming, and activist judges? What could make you vote FOR that, other than fear? Because certainly you are intelligent enough to understand the fallacy of voting "against." There is no such thing.

You lecture about how we should be talking about "what's real." Here are some REAL things. The last time a president was elected on a plurality, he was impeached two years later. The time before a president was elected on a plurality, he was creamed with the Repubican Revolution. That is WHAT'S REAL.

Here's another thing that's real. Every third party vote will count toward weakening the mandate of the winner. Odds are extremely high that either Obama or Romney will be our next president. I have no illusions that whichever third party guy I vote for will win. I know for a fact that my vote WILL count toward weakening the popular mandate of whichever of the two liberals does win. That is what's REAL.

It's rich, also, that you mention talking about "what's real and what's now," right after you've talked about "small picture voters." Obama is "now." It's all about Obama, and the small picture is focused exclusively on him, or more accurately, an hysterical fear of him. But the "here and how" if liberal Romney gets a majority, Obama will be forgotten and it will be ALL ABOUT ROMNEY, and all about that same media-driven manipulation twisting what was a referendum on Obama into a popular mandate FOR liberal Romney's "progressive style of governing." You had better get real about THAT consequence, Former Rep.

I know that you are sadly deceived in thinking that Romney might "turn the tide" if he got a "big R" win. He is a liberal, he has always been a liberal, and he will behave accordingly. You are Charlie Brown playing football with Lucy.

The REAL thing is that the only hope conservatives have is for the next president to win on such a weak plurality that he is as politically vulnerable as Clinton ended up being. Clinton was a lot more popular than Obama, and Clinton had two terms; Obama re-elected on a plurality would be only four more years of a despised Democrat being beaten by an empowered conservative Republican faction in Congress. Obama is so loathed that there's very little chance he could get even 50% of the vote.

You want to talk about reality? Then start acknowledging it: Romney IS a liberal registered as a Republican. Republicans in Congress, conservatives in Congress, would have a much more difficult time opposing their own party's powerful liberal statist president/leader elected by a landslide, than they would a despised and weak Obama in the public and REAL context of most Americans having voted for someone else. Obama would be a mockery and he would be vulnerable. Grow a pair, please.

You are letting fear manipulate you into thinking short-term. That's what's real and now.

Yes, I know a lot about you and what you do and don't fear. I know because of what you have written here on FR, and likewise, you know a lot about me as well.

93 posted on 07/30/2012 3:10:41 PM PDT by Finny (A deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. Voting for Romney to avoid Obama is just that.)
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