Looking at http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/000192.htm , it says:
“The first symptom of hypertrophic cardiomyopathy among many young patients is sudden collapse and possible death. This is caused by very abnormal heart rhythms (arrhythmias), or from the blockage of blood leaving the heart to the rest of the body.”
Do I understand correctly that athletes will sometimes drop dead with this because the exercise they’re doing causes an arrhythmia?
If the 60% blockage didn’t cause Breitbart to drop dead, it would just about have to be an arrhythmia, wouldn’t it? And isn’t that what a potassium chloride dart would cause?
If so everything is as would be expected if it was a heart attack dart. The only way to know whether this was caused artificially rather than naturally is by seeing whether there was a small red spot where a dart went into his body.
And according to the autopsy, the coroner’s office did not take photos of the body when they took custody of the body, as is their standard protocol.
Here’s what I posted elsewhere:
Thanks. There are a few things in there that are VERY interesting. I’m not a medical person but as I read this autopsy, these things seem to be indicated:
1. The investigator contacted Andrew’s wife by phone about 10:00am the next morning. She claimed that Andrew had been taken to the ER a year before and had congestive heart failure. But the coroner notes that they had the medical records, and by that time Ed Winter, deputy chief coroner, had already reported to the media that Breitbart had not seen a doctor for over a year. So the claims that he had seen a doctor and had congestive heart failure came from his wife mid-morning the following day and was contradicted by the actual medical records.
2. There was no witness to the autopsy.
3. This claims that there were no photos taken of the body when retrieved from the ER. This violates the protocols for the LA County Coroner’s Office, according to an audit of that agency done 3 years ago. If photos were taken of the body according to protocol, they have since been destroyed.
The person who transported the body from the ER - who is the person who should photograph the body - was not named in the autopsy, so Ed Winter would say that Michael Cormier was not associated with the case in any way (since his name was not listed anywhere in the autopsy). So we have no idea who transported the body, whether they photographed the body according to protocols and the photos were subsequently destroyed, or why they didn’t photograph the body if they didn’t photograph it.
The important thing to note is that the only proof of whether a heart attack was artificially induced by a heart attack dart is those photos, and though they are standard protocol in THIS CASE the autopsy claims they were never taken.
4. The maximum level of blockage found in the arteries was 60%. I’m not a medical person, like I said, but this suggests to me that a heart attack was not caused by blockage or anything with the arteries or heart themselves, but rather because of the electrical impulses being “off” - which is the means used in a potassium chloride heart attack assassination dart.
This autopsy thus raises more questions than it answers. There is nothing in here that I can see that rules out a heart attack dart, and the photos that should have documented whether there was a tiny red mark where a dart entered the body were not taken, in violation of standard protocols. The level of blockage in the arteries suggests this heart attack was NOT caused by the condition of the arteries or heart but by the electrical impulses which control the timing of the heartbeats, which is the means whereby a heart attack dart causes a heart attack.
As always, if somebody else has input that clarifies or rebuts anything I’ve said, I hope to hear it.
Wait a minute. I need to correct myself here.
On page 7 it says that photographs WERE taken before the autopsy.
On page 1 (at http://www.lsnewsgroup.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/2012-01471-Breitbart-Autopsy-Report.pdf ) there appears to be a wrinkle so it’s hard to read. If the “transported by” refers to transportation from the hospital to the morgue, then Lucia Montoya transported the body at 9:05AM - 25 minutes before an investigator was assigned to the case - together with fingerprints and the hospital report and hospital chart. Three photos were taken. No other evidence was listed so an evidence log was not created. The investigator appears to have based his conclusions solely on the ER report and his discussion with Breitbart’s wife.
So the protocol was followed (although 3 photos would not cover every square inch of skin either) On p. 12 of the PDF the coroner’s report shows that the coroner reviewed the body tag, x-ray, “fluoro”, and medical records, but not at-scene photos (ER was written in next to that line but was not checked).
I think what this comes down to is that the coroner never examined for a little red mark from a dart gun. Three photos were taken, but the coroner never mentions what was on them. His own external observations were apparently only for injuries or evidence of medical care.
You are comparing apples to oranges. The 60% blockage is in a coronary artery. If this causes part of the heart to become under perfused it can lead to arrhythmias although not likely with only 60% blocked. That would be considered mild to moderate
The blockage that kills with hypertrophic cardiomyopathy is blockage of the outflow tract of the left ventricle. The muscle literally becomes so thick that when the ventricle contracts it totally blocks any outflow. Think trying to empty a balloon with a knot in the neck. Tjisisthe primary way the cardiomyopathy kills- cardiac output drops to zero suddenly
Arrhythmias are generally a more favorable arrest. If seen in time and treated with defibrillation most arrhythmias are reversible. As I said in the last post not so with the hypertrophic cardiomyopathy. A very experienced team in a hospital that knows. The cause of the arrest still doesn’t have very good odds with that one. And on a sidewalk somewhere you don’t know the cause of arrest. You always assume arrhythmia because it is the most common and the most treatable