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To: Girlene; darrellmaurina; xzins; smoothsailing; jazusamo; BunnySlippers

That one I have zero facts on, but I do have a lot of unanswered questions:

1) What was the amount of money? I’ve heard everywhere from $800,000 to $1.5 million. Not a good start.

2) If there was a legal order to pay back the money, what judge did it come from?

3) Was there no follow-up by said legal entity on the status of the payback?

4) Why did the supposed victim not say anything about this until now? If it was a legal directive, and he hasn’t seen a dime from Bales, then you’d think he’d have been making a stink about it for quite some time.

5) Bales left that job and joined the Army over 10 years ago. Again, why is this guy just now getting worked up? Why, if Bales was at fault and liable for those losses, did no one seem to be able to find him in the Army? People think they can hide in the Army, but it’s probably the worst place to go. Your name, picture, and fingerprints are VERY easily found.

Bales avoided this for 10 years by being in the Army? I don’t think so.


302 posted on 03/21/2012 7:50:38 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (Don't stop. Keep moving!)
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To: Future Snake Eater

1. Have you not hear it was compensatory and punitive damages? That would cover the disparity.

2. If it was a case filed with the SEC, it would have been adjudicated by the FDIC which is now called FINRA.

3. I’m assuming there was. There are dozens, if not hundreds of articles about this. Start reading.

4. Just because you had not heard that someone was bilked out of funds years ago does NOT mean he has not been trying to get his money back until now.

5. Bales did not become notorious until now. That’s why the press has not been all over his background.

Indeed, one theory is his attorney may use the “bad apple soldier” defense. Meaning they will lay the blame on the army for either not checking his background enough, or allowing him in to meet enlistment quotas.

Either way, Bales comes out as an unsavory person. I suspect he will not be free for a long time, if ever. And, at this point, we still do not know enough of the circumstances of the crime.

I found it interesting that the people he REPORTEDLY
drank with prior to the event say that he had domestic problems. And the news has reported that his wife put the house up for sale 3 days before the massacre.


308 posted on 03/21/2012 8:47:21 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Future Snake Eater
There ARE a lot of unanswered questions, FSE. I watched a snarky Brian Ross clip - this money owed is front and center in defining his character in the press, IMO.

1. Regarding amount - here's what I've found so far:
An arbitration panel found Bales, Michael Patterson and Michael Patterson Inc. individually and jointly liable for $637,000 in compensatory damages, $637,000 in punitive damages, $216,500 in attorneys’ fees and several thousand dollars in other fees. Lawyer says Washington Staff Sgt. Robert Bales, Afghan killings suspect, recalls little Now what the heck does that mean? Individually and jointly? Which entity was supposed to pay what back?

The rest is where it gets murky for me.....that's why I asked if anyone else knew how this stuff worked. I believe, a complaint was made to NSAD (National Association of Securites Dealers) in May (or srping, 2000).

At some point, the case was reviewed and NSAD agreed there was something wrong. For some reason, Bales did not show up to the arbitration which I believed happened in 2003. I did find a NSAD disciplinary action that showed Robert Bales did acknowledge he had failed to respond to requests for testimony. NSAD Disciplinary Action, Nov, 2004

Most of this is greek to me. I'm with you....... how hard would it be to find him? A broker's SS No. would be known, and being enlisted would have made it pretty easy to locate him. Could this judgement/arbitration amount, whatever it was, be non-binding? IOW, did he, or anyhone, HAVE to pay these people this money?
312 posted on 03/21/2012 9:45:30 AM PDT by Girlene
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To: Future Snake Eater

Sounds like some one want’s their 20 seconds of fame.


356 posted on 03/21/2012 7:52:20 PM PDT by tillacum
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