Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Forgerygate: Ignoring Arpaio's report is a scandal in itself
The Washington Times 24/7 ^ | 3-15-2012 | Jeffery Kuhner

Posted on 03/15/2012 10:52:58 AM PDT by Danae

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 141-160161-180181-200 ... 281-285 next last
To: PA-RIVER; upcountry miss
When you hit the date stamp to the paper, what is the typical mechanical action?
What "mechanical action" is there in the hand stamp in question?
There are no "moving parts", but there are "removable parts".
161 posted on 03/16/2012 8:45:14 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 159 | View Replies]

To: PA-RIVER; upcountry miss

Isn’t motor action, or motor function, what you’re asking about instead of mechanical action.


162 posted on 03/16/2012 8:56:11 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 161 | View Replies]

To: LucyT

I have posted about this before here in FR.

One of our lifelong friends is very close with ex secret service living in Northern California.

When I was doing my research of Obama in 2008 and trying to get the word out to stop this ‘EVIL’ man from being elected, I was talking to this friend.

He said these ex secret service men had contacts with the SS who were protecting candidate Obama. I remember thinking these conversations were happening while in flight.

They said what Obama and his team had planned for us was nothing like we had ever seen in our lives.

You can put that aside and say well it is gossip. But, really after seeing Obama in action it is hard to forget. It sent chills up and down my spine because I knew Obama already and it did not mean he had good plans for America.

One other thing I think many of us listened to and thought it was nothing was the caller to Michael Savage right after the election. He said he worked on Obama’s campaign and after the win he was invited to a meeting in Chicago.

He proceeded to say what Obama and team had planned. More money than they would ever need. One party rule. Army of democrat Patronage system that will completely freeze out republicans.

Smoking Gun: Democrat Insider Says “Obama Has Secret Plan to Fund a Patronage System” http://is.gd/fu2g8j

Obama is the Devil’s spawn.


163 posted on 03/16/2012 9:12:05 AM PDT by OafOfOffice (W.C:Socialism:Philosophy of failure,creed of ignorance,gospel of envy,the equal sharing of misery)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 134 | View Replies]

To: AuntB

Here’s how the New York Times operates... watch and weep:

It’s an undercover tape - one of the men you’ll hear is connected to the New York Times...

Maybe CBS is starting to get off the MSM plantation... good thinking if they want to survive.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBFOmUXR080


164 posted on 03/16/2012 9:22:01 AM PDT by GOPJ (Democrat-Media Complex - buried stories and distorted facts... freeper 'andrew' Breitbart)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 71 | View Replies]

To: philman_36
I'm a golfer and an engineer. Electrical, Mechanical and computer. In my mind, I see the arm and hand as a mechanical device. I see all things from an engineering perspective.

The human mind, the human hand is very precise, and repetitive in nature.

Some part of the stamp will hit first. No stamp will hit perfectly flush and flat every time. The outside edge of a stamp will always hit first.

Thus, some part of the rubber stamp will take the initial brunt force of energy, millions of times when stamping.

With energy, any force will be negated by an opposing and equal force. That force is absorbed into the face of the rubber stamp, basically giving it a slight concave shape after millions of strikes and rolls with the wrist.

So, we add 2008 to a stamp in January, and strike it 100,000 times, either rolling bottom to top, or top to bottom. After some time, the numerical values 2008 on the stamp face of 2008 begins to round, but it will still print because of the impact force and mechanical rolling action applied by the postal workers arm and hand. The lower portion of 2008 will be slightly depressed when compared to the upper portion of 2008 because it is closer to the edge.

Now, take a look at the 80 in the stamp on Obamas SS card. Why is the top of 80 clipped or missing? It is because it is in fact the lower edge of 2008, the part that hit the paper first, millions of time, absorbing much more energy than the top of 2008. It is slightly crushed from millions of hits toward the outer edge of the stamp when it was used in 2008. Now that it is flipped over to form 80, it's top edge fails to make contact with the paper because it is in fact the crushed side of 08.

The Stamp was probably taken from that Hawaii post office in late 2008.

The SS registration is clearly forged.

165 posted on 03/16/2012 9:37:54 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 161 | View Replies]

To: PA-RIVER

Please replace the word Concave with Convex on my last post ... Anyway, It clearly explains why the top edge of 80 is missing. The stamp is worn in a convex manner, 2008 is then flipped with the higher edge toward the outer edge of the stamp.


166 posted on 03/16/2012 9:49:03 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 165 | View Replies]

To: Danae
I'm on Spring Break in AZ watching the Texas Rangers at spring training. I picked up a free copy of the 16-page Gilbert Independent (Wed. March 14, 2012) and saw this letter.

Uploaded from the Photobucket Android App

167 posted on 03/16/2012 9:49:31 AM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Man is not free unless government is limited. ~Ronald Reagan)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Danae; Fantasywriter

I think Fantasywriter’s analogy of the dam being breached is accurate (of course what do I know, an ant!). Arpaio is a hero as is everyone who has worked on Zero’s background and non-eligibility for all these horrible years. And heroines!


168 posted on 03/16/2012 9:49:31 AM PDT by little jeremiah (We will have to go through hell to get out of hell. Signed, a fanatic)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 158 | View Replies]

To: melancholy; butterdezillion; little jeremiah

I feel a little uncomfortable with my post at #129 and just want to clarify something.

I was wrong to make blanket statements. I was speaking about the “conservative media” as a monolith not individuals who are or could be at great personal risk.

It is easy for me to talk. Since I put nothing past these people in power I’m not one of the one’s under the duress.

I pray that anyone dealing with this cabal is kept safe and unharmed.

My reason for posting on this topic is to be one more voice in support for the rule of law and the constitution.

I think Sheriff Joe needs and deserves all the support he can get.


169 posted on 03/16/2012 10:27:50 AM PDT by Smokeyblue
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 153 | View Replies]

To: philman_36
First, let me state that I have been retired 25+ years, things are waaay different now, but I was postmaster in 1980 and computerized receipts were in the future then. The hand date stamper then was just as its name-a circular dating device hooked to a dowel-like handle. Nothing mechanical. You pick up the dater and hit the spot on the receipt you are dating. The daters were protected devices locked up at night and if one was misplaced, we searched til it was found and if one needed to be replaced the old one was returned to our Sectional Center for accountability. Not saying that it had exceptional security, just that we wouldn't take the theft of one lightly.

Can't believe the Sheriff or some of his investigators haven't noticed the very strange placement of the 80 on that form. I think he has and isn't revealing that yet.

I also believe that Postal Inspectors would find that date very INTERESTING. Have worked with Postal Inspectors during Geo. H.W. Bush's term when he would receive hate mail (fairly often) or suspicious looking packets and various other unrelated incidences -mailbox tampering, theft by postal workers (all too frequent) and I have found the Inspectors to be very efficient and professional. Unfortunately any Inspectors I was acquainted with have long since retired.

To a postal worker, that is such an obvious, glaring forgery I truly believe somebody is looking into it but have to wonder how the forger thought it would pass close inspection.

170 posted on 03/16/2012 10:32:28 AM PDT by upcountry miss
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 162 | View Replies]

To: little jeremiah

Thanks, lj. Your words mean a lot to me. Arpaio is a hero. He put it all on the line, and he is ready to take the flak. The usual moonbat cr*p won’t work on him. He literally faces death daily, and if a few limp-wristed lefties think they can intimidate him, their delusions warrant a net, white-jacketed attendants, and a snugly fitted straightjacket.

Danae is a hero too. Getting this kind of piece in a major paper/news outlet, when you’re not a big name journalist, takes guts, determination and stand-out talent. Plus, when you start kicking the snow around near the top of a slope, you never know when an avalanche may ensue. Hats off to Danae’s tenacity and bold initiative: it’s just what we needed, exactly when we needed it.


171 posted on 03/16/2012 10:32:46 AM PDT by Fantasywriter
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 168 | View Replies]

To: Smokeyblue
I feel a little uncomfortable with my post at #129 and just want to clarify something.

I understood what you said. No clarification needed.

Thank you for dotting the Is and crossing the Ts.

172 posted on 03/16/2012 10:41:54 AM PDT by melancholy (Professor Alinsky, Enslavement Specialist, Ph.D in L0w and H0lder)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 169 | View Replies]

To: PA-RIVER
That's it. I have been studying that 80 on the postmark and trying to figure out what was strange about it.Of course, I have seen this “crushing” happen many, many times but didn't realize that was what I was looking at-just thought the top of the 80 looked unnatural.

The placement of the year date way to the right instead of in the middle is such a dead give-away to a forgery also. Although Lucy pings me to BC articles, I think this is the first one that my attention has been drawn to this postmark and if there are Postal Inspectors on Free Republic, why in heavens name aren't you looking into this.

173 posted on 03/16/2012 10:56:12 AM PDT by upcountry miss
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 165 | View Replies]

To: upcountry miss

So you agree, with 20 plus years of experience, that the outer edges get crushed a little?

So now we have the 08 flipped, with the “more crushed” edge on top of 80. And that is the WRONG SIDE. It’s a Forgery.


174 posted on 03/16/2012 11:20:13 AM PDT by PA-RIVER
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 173 | View Replies]

To: PA-RIVER

Of course! With the year plug only being changed once a year, it gets lots of pressure on the outer edge.

But the first two digits being eliminated is so obviously a forgery, I can’t believe this was an over sight by the forger, so why was it forged in this manner?


175 posted on 03/16/2012 11:50:47 AM PDT by upcountry miss
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 174 | View Replies]

To: Spaulding

You have mail! :)


176 posted on 03/16/2012 12:01:56 PM PDT by Danae (Anail nathrach, ortha bhais is beatha, do cheal deanaimh)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 138 | View Replies]

To: BuckeyeTexan

HAHA! Ain’t gonna do em much good. That much I know LOLZ


177 posted on 03/16/2012 12:05:01 PM PDT by Danae (Anail nathrach, ortha bhais is beatha, do cheal deanaimh)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 167 | View Replies]

To: PA-RIVER
Man, all kinds of impossible explanations are being offered, each more ludicrous than the last.

You did give it your best shot.

178 posted on 03/16/2012 12:14:22 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 165 | View Replies]

To: upcountry miss
Abbreviated and inverted “Convex crushed year insert” syndrome. A forgers nightmare.

The top of 80 gets clipped because it never touches the paper because it's a crushed and inverted 08.

80 top edge clipping mystery solved.

179 posted on 03/16/2012 12:17:17 PM PDT by PA-RIVER
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 173 | View Replies]

To: upcountry miss
Can't believe the Sheriff or some of his investigators haven't noticed the very strange placement of the 80 on that form.
It was noted. There is a video of it as well.

@Selective Service

Would you please post some comments after you view the video?

180 posted on 03/16/2012 12:21:21 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 170 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 141-160161-180181-200 ... 281-285 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson