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To: butterdezillion
“Whoa! Wait a minute! That was one of the parts I missed. What was said about the supposed BC copies from off the web? Were those accepted as if they were authenticated and certified?

“Because if they were, then this changes my schedule for the immediate future.”

There were three separate cases here. The first two cases arguing that Obama was not NBC required that for ineligibility based on a non-US citizen father BC to be ruled by the judge there had to be a BC that was claimed to be genuine by Obama placed into evidence.

There was no need to authenticate that the images placed before the judge were certified or genuine, only that Obama himself says they are genuine.

Because Obama’s attorney was not there to object to these claimed BCs being put in the record (both short and long BCs) the lawyers for the first two cases were able to assert that Obama was NOT NBC because of the non-citizen father on those BCs (and their interpretation of the Minor case). So these Obama BCs were admitted as proving his non-citizen father by default and with out being authenticated.

Up until today Obama’s lawyers have fought strenuously against “production” of an “authentic” certified BC into the record...and so far that still hasn't happened, IMO (non-lawyer).

As I have said, this behavior by Obama’s lawyers screams “consciousness of guilt” that Obama knows he is ineligible!

765 posted on 01/26/2012 12:43:53 PM PST by Seizethecarp
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To: Seizethecarp

So you’re saying that paternity was conceded based on Obama’s CLAIM that these BC’s were genuine? That it wouldn’t matter if the documents were fake as long as they were accurate - and Obama admits against his own interest they are accurate? So the claim of BHO as Obama’s father was made by the plaintiffs and Obama never rebutted that claim, as evidenced by his claim that the BC’s listing BHO as father were genuine.

Does that sum up what you’re saying? The plaintiffs never proved (or attempted to prove) that BHO was the father, but they did prove that BHO wasn’t contesting the claim so it would be considered admitted as a fact.


785 posted on 01/26/2012 12:56:14 PM PST by butterdezillion
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To: Seizethecarp
As I have said, this behavior by Obama’s lawyers screams “consciousness of guilt” that Obama knows he is ineligible!

He was on the six member SR511 committee and agreed to the TWO US PARENTS definition in April 2008. Right there he announced to the world that he knows he's not eligible.

880 posted on 01/26/2012 2:16:36 PM PST by bgill (The Obama administration is staging a coup. Wake up, America, before it's too late.)
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