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Ron Paul Can't Be Allowed To Win Iowa
Townhall.com ^ | December 24, 2011 | Matt Mackowiak

Posted on 12/24/2011 6:52:00 AM PST by Kaslin

This piece was co-authored by Ford O'Connell

It’s time to have a frank conversation about “the one,” and we are not talking about President Barack Obama.

The latest round of polling coming out of the Hawkeye State suggests that Texas Congressman Ron Paul could indeed win the 2012 Iowa caucuses.

In 2008, long-shot candidate Gov. Mike Huckabee scored a surprise win in Iowa, but his candidacy was serious and he was a governor. That year, eventual nominee Sen. John McCain essentially skipped Iowa, finishing fourth and marginalizing Iowa’s political impact.

Should Rep. Ron Paul, who first ran for president in 1988, win Iowa, it may be the last time the state has the honor of being the first state to hold a vote every four years.

We know Iowa GOP caucus-goers are frustrated with the status quo in Washington and are extremely concerned about the future direction of this great nation, but casting a vote this January for candidate Paul is beyond unwise for three reasons.

First, Ron Paul will not defeat President Obama in 2012. The most recent general election polling may suggest that Rep. Paul is within striking distance of Obama, but the president will score an easy victory next November if Paul is indeed his opponent. While conservatives and some establishment Republicans rightly cheer as Paul professes smaller government and fiscal accountability, his outrageous positions on U.S. foreign policy, particularly given the meteoric rise of China and continued saber-rattling by Iran and North Korea on the international scene, will cause most general election voters to double down on Obama before they pull the lever in Paul’s favor.

Let us also not forget that should Paul actually be the nominee, his decades-old incendiary (although unbylined) newsletters — once Team Obama highlights them — will likely damage the Republican brand for years to come. Simply put, if Paul is the Republican nominee, President Obama will be assured four more years in the White House, and Americans just cannot afford that.

Second, Ron Paul will not win the 2012 GOP presidential nomination, so there is no need to give him momentum. We know the field is large and there are several viable choices to be the Republican Party’s standard-bearer next year, but giving Paul a victory in Iowa can only serve to hinder the eventual Republican nominee’s chances in the general election.

In the past, Paul has not demonstrated himself to be a team player, and with our new primary rules, Paul could wreck havoc all the way to the convention in Tampa. This counterproductive behavior was on display in 2008, when he refused to endorse then-nominee McCain and proceeded to hold a protest near the national convention. If Paul accumulates enough delegates in 2012, he could cause some real problems for the eventual nominee and the party at the convention. Regardless of which candidate not named Paul ultimately wins the nomination, every potential GOP voter needs to be unified if Obama is to be defeated in 2012.

Third, voters must not embolden Ron Paul to make a third-party presidential run. Many of Ron Paul’s most ardent supporters display a mania for him that transcends policy and becomes idolatry. There is no need to give Paul’s supporters any reason to think that Paul will fare better in a three-way general election than in a two-candidate race. According to a recent Washington Post-ABC News national poll, a third-party bid by Paul would almost certainly doom the eventual Republican nominee’s chances of capturing the White House in 2012, as he would draw many more votes from the Republican nominee than from President Obama. It also doesn’t help that Paul has yet to publicly rule out a third-party run.

Congressman Paul is extremely dangerous and his candidacy for president should not be taken lightly. He cannot be allowed to gain momentum in Iowa, either within the Republican field or in preparation for a third-party general election run. Our country’s future literally hangs in the balance. Helping Paul win a victory in Iowa will not only be a wasted vote, but it will likely challenge the party’s wisdom of permitting the Hawkeye State to hold the first nominating contest in the future.


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To: Kaslin
He'll be a one-trick pony. Big deal.
81 posted on 12/24/2011 8:38:53 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (FOREIGN AID: A transfer of money from poor people in rich countries to rich people in poor countries)
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To: Kaslin

Paul winning Iowa is akin to Obama winning a town in the Mississippi Delta - inconsequential as he hasn’t a chance in the State.


82 posted on 12/24/2011 8:40:55 AM PST by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: tacticalogic

Bull. He uses the Constitution just like the muslims use it against us. He is the pork king of congress. Liar, fraud.


83 posted on 12/24/2011 8:42:54 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: MestaMachine
Bull. He uses the Constitution just like the muslims use it against us. He is the pork king of congress. Liar, fraud.

How many "conservative" Republican candidates agree with Clarence Thomas on the abuse of the Commerce Clause by Congress?

84 posted on 12/24/2011 8:46:57 AM PST by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: null and void
"I would not assume any candidate could defeat Obama in 2012."

That is an extremely weird statement. How can you not think Obama is a one-term President?

I (and others) have said Elmer Fudd could beat Obama.

The only hope he has of being close is his huge campaign money, and that doesn't guarantee a win.

85 posted on 12/24/2011 8:47:44 AM PST by Designer (Nit-pickin' and chagrinin')
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To: MinuteGal
***His twisted ego also raises the possibility of a third-party run. If Trump does the same, it could really hurt the GOP presidential nominee. Obabaloney is undoubtedly is licking his chops over this scenario.***

I say, me lass, I think ye have hit the nail squarely on the haid! . . . or, as JarJar Binks might put it: My give it up. Meesa 'spect yousa Bombas right! ;-)

How ridiculous for Paul to say he had no knowledge of what was in his own newsletters - with HIS name on it. This makes the Clintooon seem almost truthful! Add to that his charging Bachmann and Santorum with anti-homo, anti-Muslim hatred is worse than tawdry.

But Ron Paul's biggest problem is that HE IS TOO OLD!!! Everyone seems to overlook this handicap.

86 posted on 12/24/2011 8:49:47 AM PST by Bob Ireland (The Democrat Party is a criminal enterprise)
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To: Afronaut

Post of the Year!


87 posted on 12/24/2011 8:50:17 AM PST by roofgoat
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To: Designer
I'm not going to assume that we have an honest election.

Heck, at this point I wouldn't assume that we even have an election.

88 posted on 12/24/2011 8:50:52 AM PST by null and void (Day 1067 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: Designer
On a scale of 1-10, definitely above seven.

Oh but I do. I think he wants to be a one term president, el presidente for life.

89 posted on 12/24/2011 8:53:03 AM PST by null and void (Day 1067 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: Designer
How can you not think Obama is a one-term President?

Oh but I do. I think he wants to be a one term president, el presidente for life.

Damnable windoze keyboard...

90 posted on 12/24/2011 8:54:51 AM PST by null and void (Day 1067 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: MestaMachine

“Nuclear Iran” falls into foreign policy, which I already mentioned. Some of the other stuff you mentioned has to do with federalism vs. centralized power, not so much conscious policy positions.

There are certainly some kooks who like Ron Paul for those reasons. I was just pointing out that there are a lot of issues where the left is diametrically opposed to Ron Paul.


91 posted on 12/24/2011 8:55:28 AM PST by B Knotts (Just another Tenther)
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To: null and void
"Heck, at this point I wouldn't assume that we even have an election."

Don't put that idea past the dems. They would love nothing more than to have "Dear Leader" suspend elections "for the children".

92 posted on 12/24/2011 8:56:32 AM PST by Designer (Nit-pickin' and chagrinin')
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To: Designer
For a lot of reasons, it's hard to beat an incumbent.

That said, Obama is probably the most beatable incumbent Democrat since Jimmy Carter, who he resembles politically.

93 posted on 12/24/2011 8:58:00 AM PST by B Knotts (Just another Tenther)
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To: rhombus
"Would counting those votes have really changed anything or just made you feel better?"

Hard to say, but I get nervous when the rules are ignored.

94 posted on 12/24/2011 8:58:25 AM PST by Designer (Nit-pickin' and chagrinin')
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To: tacticalogic

I haven’t picked a candidate yet. I seriously don’t agree with all of them about one thing or another. Off the top, I think Perry agrees with Thomas. The others, Santorum talks the talk, but hasn’t always walked the walk; Bachmann also agrees until it comes to her own pet views; Gingrich, ya ha; mitt, foregone, begone! The rest aren’t there. Invisible candidates.
That doesn’t make paul any less a liar and a fraud, though, does it?


95 posted on 12/24/2011 9:12:47 AM PST by MestaMachine (obama kills)
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To: Designer

I’d agree if there was a rule it shouldn’t have been ignored.


96 posted on 12/24/2011 9:13:45 AM PST by rhombus
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To: Kaslin
Should Rep. Ron Paul, who first ran for president in 1988, win Iowa, it may be the last time the state has the honor of being the first state to hold a vote every four years.

Were that to happen, it would be worth a Paul win, but I'm for Santorum.

97 posted on 12/24/2011 9:27:41 AM PST by Theodore R. (I'll still vote for Santorum if he is on the April 3 ballot.)
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To: MinuteGal

Behold, Amoral human waste from both sides of the aisle, in my opinion!


98 posted on 12/24/2011 9:38:59 AM PST by ExTexasRedhead
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To: Bob Ireland
RIGHT YOU ARE! I posted this on another thread but only yesterday...Ron Paul if/when elected will be 77 on his Inauguration Day. Ronald Reagan was 69 when he was Inaugurated. Bob Dole was deemed too old to be President back in 1996 he would have been 73 on Inauguration Day.

Folks, it ain't gonna happen! America will simply not elect a 77 year old man to be President! Ron Paul can of course be a spoiler...

99 posted on 12/24/2011 9:54:36 AM PST by donozark (Ron Paul! You magnificent bastard! I read your book! (cook book that is))
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To: ColdSteelTalon
I like what Ron Paul says but I am not sure what his stand is on Israel. Would he protect Israel from being destroyed by her enemies if it came down to it?

No, he would not.



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Today we have Obama, no cash, and no hope!

If you can't appreciate the pure beauty of the violin after hearing this, something's wrong with your ears.

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100 posted on 12/24/2011 10:09:50 AM PST by rdb3 (><>The mouth is the exhaust pipe of the heart. <><)
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