Posted on 11/24/2011 7:34:27 AM PST by marktwain
Where is Mr. Dearth registered to vote? As a general rule an American civilian living abroad would vote absentee from the last location they lived at before leaving the country.
And unless overseas is the only place where you can find gainful employment like so many have.
[ Personally, I can’t think of a good reason to live outside the country except for work or marriage reasons . ]
Lots of reasons for a traitor to live primarily outside the country.. or to “travel”..
They traitors primarily because they are citizens..
I also add that not ALL democrats are traitors.. most but not all..
And unless overseas is the only place where you can find gainful employment
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Just ‘followin the jobs Boss’.
Do ‘all’ fail to see the humor/irony in the fact that as quick as we ship jobs overseas, overseas citizens come here looking for work?
There has to be a ‘happy middle’ there.
Have you taken leave of your senses? You seriously would impose the death penalty on the citizens of a free republic because they choose to live abroad? Re-read the founders documents you reference on your profile page and you might learn that the United States is not like East Germany.
Are you seriously that thick?
You think you should be reduced as an American citizen for, say, moving to Australia for two years with their job and not maintaining property in the US because they can’t afford it?
You think someone**
“It’s an interesting question. Does one have to have a permanent residence of the United States in order to enjoy all the freedoms associated with citizenship? Do you suddenly become a second-class citizen just because your house is located outside the 50 states?”
Join the club to get the benefits. No join? No benefits. Not a US citizen, no guns. Permanent residencey is not good enough either. Join, or deal with it. Period.
You will be surprised how many highly educated and skilled Americans live and work overseas because they couldn’t find a decent job at home.
[ Have you taken leave of your senses? You seriously would impose the death penalty on the citizens of a free republic because they choose to live abroad? ]
If they are traitors... YES..
[ You think you should be reduced as an American citizen for, say, moving to Australia for two years with their job and not maintaining property in the US because they can’t afford it? ]
You don’t read good.. suggest another try..
many highly educated and skilled Americans live
Yes, I am aware and we have quite a ‘crew’ that have retired overseas also.
>[ Do you suddenly become a second-class citizen just because your house is located outside the 50 states? ]
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>YES... if your primary residence is in another country your citizenship should be questioned..
>Unless you are in the armed services.. or a very few in the Diplomatic Corp..
That sentiment makes me VERY uncomfortable; if the government is able to “question” (read: “possibly revoke”) your citizenship then ALL rights secured to the citizen by the Constitution are not rights, but privileges granted by the state.
>>“It’s an interesting question. Does one have to have a permanent residence of the United States in order to enjoy all the freedoms associated with citizenship? Do you suddenly become a second-class citizen just because your house is located outside the 50 states?”
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>Join the club to get the benefits. No join? No benefits. Not a US citizen, no guns. Permanent residencey is not good enough either. Join, or deal with it. Period.
But that’s not the question; the question is of that of a Citizen who does not have a permanent residence.
Respectfully Sir/Ma'am.....BULL SHIT!
There are quite a number of proud, patriotic U.S. Citizens who reside in countries other than the U.S.A.
Might I suggest you remove your head from the dark place it appears to be inserted and try to widen your scope of understanding.
The FFL system is basically barring me from getting "standing" to challenge some of Kalifornia's laws without breaking federal laws.
Well said. A lot of the posters on this thread have a fundamental misunderstanding of the issue at hand with this case, which I think is an excellent one, and I wish the plaintiffs luck with it.
[ That sentiment makes me VERY uncomfortable; if the government is able to “question” (read: “possibly revoke”) your citizenship then ALL rights secured to the citizen by the Constitution are not rights, but privileges granted by the state. ]
There is a lot to be uncomfortable about when a republic is made to morph a democracy.. especially this unique kind republic we have.. maybe had..
This republic was not setup to be run by Mob Rule by mobsters.. when illegal aliens can “vote” as if they were citizens.. and legal aliens are looked on as citizens.. when they are NOT..
I’m not sure Americans even know what a citizen is anymore.. Its easy to revoke or instate citizenship in a system where the very word means nothing.. And after invoked or revoked what you have is nebulous..
I suggest you remove yourself from you’re PollyAnna state and look at reality.. What a citizen is in the United States now is on a sliding scale.. As is many other words... like say...... treason.. sedition.. Trojan Horse.. They don’t mean what they used to mean... anymore..
[ Might I suggest you remove your head from the dark place it appears to be inserted and try to widen your scope of understanding. ]
I offer you the same gratuity.. Primary residence has meaning.. its not just a legal term.. but its in fact a legal term.. It means something..
Secondary residence means something else.. even if you do not know what it means it still means what it means..
To be a citizen you MUST from primarily from somewhere..
The One Worlders have not WON YET...
>I suggest you remove yourself from you’re PollyAnna state and look at reality..
I actually am looking at reality.
You yourself said “This republic was not setup to be run by Mob Rule by mobsters” and yet we have the [legally] Untouchable Caste: just look at the Fast & Furious incident (which, make no mistake, was an unauthorized act of war against a foreign state AND an instance of “state sponsored terrorism”) and tell me can you say with any amount of certainty that those responsible will pay anything even closely resembling severity of the crimes committed?
...but what else is it when the powerful [majority] can whimsically violate the rights of the weak (minority)?
Go back and reread my post with that previous sentence/fragment’s sentiment in mind; what is more of a minority than the individual?
>What a citizen is in the United States now is on a sliding scale..
I blame much of this on the underhanded way that the Second Class Citizen caste (felons) was created; because people let this abominable and unjust practice come into vogue we are now reaping the results by the state’s ever broadening of what constitutes a felony. (In 2014, IIRC, ObamaCare comes into force and if there is a lapse in your health insurance coverage, guess what, you’re a felon!)
>As is many other words... like say...... treason.. sedition.. Trojan Horse.. They don’t mean what they used to mean... anymore..
That’s probably only a third of the problem; two-thirds is the “that [the law] doesn’t apply to me!” attitude that many government officials have.
I can’t argue with much of what you said..
We probably agree more than we disagree..
However; I am really pissed.. and do rant..
And will continue..
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