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Hard to argue the points made in this article.
1 posted on 11/15/2011 4:00:56 AM PST by nikos1121
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We don’t need to go to war with every enemy but keeping the threat on the table has value in itself.


2 posted on 11/15/2011 4:06:59 AM PST by cripplecreek (Stand with courage or shut up and do as you're told.)
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Really?

“Hard evidence” will be tens of thousands if not hundreds of thousands of incinerated humans.

And as far as Israel being Iran's target, we are the "Great Satan", not Israel. Pat hates Jews so much it blinds to the hard realities of the world.

3 posted on 11/15/2011 4:07:01 AM PST by DB
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ONly, one thing, Pat. Nothing like the “threat” of war to put your adversary on notice. Nothing like having ships in striking distance etc to persuade someone to think twice before they act against you, unlike the meely mouthed, wishy washy numbskull we have in the WH and his SOS.


4 posted on 11/15/2011 4:07:55 AM PST by nikos1121 (Stand up is hard if you're not funny.)
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Hard to argue the points made against it to.

Do we just sit and watch as Iran takes over the entire Middle East?
If Iran makes the first strike is Israel any better off than if they had made it?
Hard evidence is that M Korea does have a nuke and they are working with Iran.

For every argument Pat makes there is a counter argument.


5 posted on 11/15/2011 4:10:56 AM PST by Venturer
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It’s clear that Pat really hates Jews and Israel. Hitler would be proud of him.


6 posted on 11/15/2011 4:11:19 AM PST by jimbo123
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Sorry, Pat, but this time I think you're confusing presence in the Gulf “as a deterrent” with presence “as an imminent threat of attack”. We already have carriers in the area, so all Mitt and Newt are really doing is a bit of political pandering to a lot of conservatives who don't want to see the leader of the US ever again bowing to a Saudi prince or anyone else. To me, their statements are simply political confirmation that they would not be an apologist like Obozo is.
8 posted on 11/15/2011 4:34:35 AM PST by econjack
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I do not want to go to war with iran... I just want to nuke their military and industrial complexes until they glow and leave them with no functioning army or government... and no nation building... and not a dime of our treasure to be used for any assistance. That is what I want... pat can go **** himself... the little nazi bastard.

LLS

9 posted on 11/15/2011 4:35:35 AM PST by LibLieSlayer ("Americans are hungry to feel once again a sense of mission and greatness." Ronaldo Magnus)
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And yet the alternative is to go for appeasement, maybe a little ‘hope’ thrown in for good measure. I mean, surely, if the Iranians manage to make a nuke or 3 they wouldn’t use them, right? Right?.......


10 posted on 11/15/2011 4:41:08 AM PST by RoadGumby (For God so loved the world)
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I’m not an advocate for going to war against Iran, but the current tract of making nice with them isn’t working. Being a little hawkish seems like a far better tract than the current one. Doesn’t mean we have to go to war against them.


12 posted on 11/15/2011 5:08:20 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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Two strong cultures can not co-exist.

One has to be so strong the other does not risk being destroyed.

We are slowly allowing ourselves to be weaken while the other side grows stronger. Like it or not, we are already at war.

The other side knows it, our political elite either are blind, corrupt, or stupid (or all of the above) to pretend otherwise.

There was a period in the beginning of WWII that was called the “false war” because nothing much was happening. We are at that stage now.

Our political leaders are going to allow the other side to strike when they are the strongest and we are at our weakest, will we be able to survive? I would like to think so but not with the current leadership (of both parties)who knows.


13 posted on 11/15/2011 5:30:47 AM PST by CIB-173RDABN
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Hard to argue the points made in this article.

That's why Pat will be called Nazi and anti-semite!

Why would Iran attack Israel? The instant they do and their entire country will be turned into a glass parking lot. Oh, that's right, the Iranians are suicidal, lunatic untermensch willing to sacrifice themselves, their children, and their entire civilization just to kill the small portion of the worldwide Jewish population that resides in Israel.

15 posted on 11/15/2011 6:00:56 AM PST by Roninf5-1
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I’am all for bombing when there is a direct, palpable threat to our security.

But only after we close the border, which should be our security issue No. 1.

And no more endless, foreign occupation, nation building fiascos costing us the lives of brave soldiers and hundreds of billions of dollars of debt, particularly for 6th century ingrates who hate us as much when we leave as they did when we came in.


16 posted on 11/15/2011 6:12:04 AM PST by SharpRightTurn ( White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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