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MSNBC Host: Why Should People Have Guns When We Have Cops
Townhall.com ^ | November 1, 2011 | Katie Pavlich

Posted on 11/01/2011 3:27:53 PM PDT by Kaslin

As I always say, you can be a victim, or not, the choice is yours.

Yesterday, Spartanburg County Sheriff Chuck Wright of South Carolina told women during a news conference to obtain their concealed weapons permit in order to better protect themselves from rapists and criminals in the area.

The sheriff of Spartanburg County, S.C., turned a news conference about an attempted rape in his community into an extended rant Monday in which he slammed a criminal justice system preferred by "liberals" for failing to keep the repeat-offender suspect behind bars -- and implored the women in his community to pack heat for self-protection.


"I want you to get a concealed weapons permit," Sheriff Chuck Wright said at the Monday news conference, as reported by TV station WYFF. "Don't get Mace. Get a firearm."

The sheriff alleged that a 46-year-old man named Walter Lance abducted a woman while she was walking her dog Sunday afternoon and attempted to rape her.

Lance was arrested and charged with kidnapping, first-degree criminal sexual conduct and grand larceny, the Spartanburg Herald-Journal reported.


In the news conference, Wright said Lance had been convicted of 20 crimes dating back to 1983, including disorderly conduct, domestic violence, assault and battery with intent to kill, and resisting arrest, among others.

"Now if anybody sitting in this room had been charged with any of that stuff, they'd probably be finding a tall oak tree and a short rope for us," Wright said.

"I can tell you that our form of justice is not making it," he stated. "This fellow that has been charged numerous times for crimes against women and crime in society ... he's been in jail more times than I have, and I'm the dad-blame [guy] over the jail over there. And he seems to get out quicker than I can get out. And I am aggravated.


"I've had liberals call me and tell me, 'The chain gang is not going to work.' Well, let me inform you that your form of justice isn't working either."

Wright suggested that the women of Spartanburg carry their weapons in fanny packs. "You can conceal a small pistol in them," he said. "They got one called The Judge that shoots a .45 or a .410 shell. You ain't got to be accurate. You just have to get close."

This Sheriff should be applauded and is absolutely correct in his suggestions. Yes, law enforcement is an important piece of society however, ultimately it is up to the individual to protect themselves, in particular women because they are biologically weaker than men and easy targets for assault.

However, unsurprisingly MSNBC fill-in host Craig Melvin seems to be more worried about the fate of potential rapists, rather than the safety of women. During an interview with Sheriff Wright today, Melvin suggested law enforcement should be the only necessary protection for women and society against criminals. At the beginning of the interview, Melvin asked:

Sheriff, if law enforcement is charged with protecting the public, then, then, then why should that not be sufficient? Why should folks have to go out and get guns and arm themselves if we've got cops?

To which Wright responded: 

We can't be everywhere, and we are a fool if we tell everybody that we can take care of all of our problems.

Later in the interview Melvin has the audacity to suggest a woman defending herself against rape is "implying guilt rather than innocence."

Melvin: If women are shooting potential attackers, aren't they presuming guilt before innocence? What if a woman kills an attacker? Isn't that opening another whole legal can of worms?

Sheriff Wright: Well, it's easy to fix that. Just don't attack a woman.... I know that this is controversial, but I do believe that people who believe in the Second Amendment and believe that they should arm themselves have a right to do so, as long as they're trained properly.


Melvin was also shocked to learn the Sheriff suggested women use a .45 calibur handgun to get the job done. What did he think the Sheriff was going to suggest? Spitballs? A rubber band gun?

Here is a reality check for Craig Melvin: The most violent cities in the country, Chicago, Detroit, New York City, all have extremely strict gun laws. Being armed is a deterrent to criminals, plain and simple. If criminals know there is potential to get shot, they think twice about attacking you. Women have every right to protect themselves against rape, murder or other violent crimes by carrying a concealed weapon and yes, if they are attacked, have the right (in most states anyway) to shoot their attacker in self-defense. It is obvious Melvin has never done a single ounce of research about concealed carry. Women can't wait around to find out the intentions of an attacker; women who do that end up dead in a ditch somewhere. His implied sympathy for rapists and his idea that women shouldn't defend themselves because they might "kill their attacker," is pathetic.

As the saying goes: When seconds count, the cops are minutes away.

H/T Media Research Center


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To: Kaslin
We had houseguests who are Leftists from a premier Leftist enclave. My wife mentioned that we have an arsenal of guns.

Our houseguest said: "Ooooo! I think such things are best left to the po-lice!"

My wife replied: "Out here in The-Middle-of-Nowhere? I don't think so."

21 posted on 11/01/2011 3:47:09 PM PDT by Savage Beast (A backwoods southern lawyer is a safer trustee for your soul than a Washington politician.)
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To: Slambat
Why should we have cops when we have guns?

That really is the dumbest reply *rme*

22 posted on 11/01/2011 3:49:34 PM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: Kaslin


23 posted on 11/01/2011 3:49:56 PM PDT by Iron Munro ('We do have tough gun laws in Massachusetts; I support them.' -- Mitt Romney)
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To: Kaslin

When seconds count, the police are just minutes away.


24 posted on 11/01/2011 3:50:11 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Kaslin
Melvin: If women are shooting potential attackers, aren't they presuming guilt before innocence? What if a woman kills an attacker? Isn't that opening another whole legal can of worms?

Put this moron in a room full of women who have been raped and violently attacked. Lock the door and play the video/audio of his question.

25 posted on 11/01/2011 3:50:26 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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To: Kaslin
Here is a reality check for Craig Melvin: The most violent cities in the country, Chicago, Detroit, New York City, all have extremely strict gun laws.

Michigan has been Shall Issue for over a decade. I was carrying in Detroit in the late 90's.

26 posted on 11/01/2011 3:54:19 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Civilization is unnatural. It is a whim of circumstance. Barbarism must always ultimately triumph.)
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To: Kaslin

The Armed Citizen: When seconds count and help is minutes away.


27 posted on 11/01/2011 3:54:40 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all......)
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To: Kaslin

Because when seconds count the police are only minutes away.


28 posted on 11/01/2011 3:55:24 PM PDT by stockpirate (Why are homosexuals so hetrophobic?)
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To: Kaslin

As I’ve asked before, can anyone think of an instance where police have stopped a rape? Shoot the rapist, and call the police to clean up the mess.


29 posted on 11/01/2011 3:55:53 PM PDT by pallis
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To: All
Guys, guys, (and gals), there's no point.

This Melvin Moron will not be receptive to being educated.

30 posted on 11/01/2011 3:56:46 PM PDT by Lazamataz (I guess some Occupiers are more 99% than other Occupiers.)
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To: Kaslin

When seconds count, cops are only minutes away.


31 posted on 11/01/2011 3:57:36 PM PDT by Kevmo (Caveat lurkor pro se ipso judicatis: Let the lurker decide for himself)
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To: Kaslin

Just one small correction: NYC is no longer a high-crime city.


32 posted on 11/01/2011 3:57:59 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Kaslin
Why Should People Have Guns When We Have Cops?

Well Mr Liberal Einstein, are the cops going to overthrow a tyrannical government or repel an invading force?

Quite the opposite actually.

33 posted on 11/01/2011 3:58:47 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER ( Celebrate Republicans Freed the Slaves Month.)
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To: Kaslin

Sheriff Chuck Wright couldn’t be more right.


34 posted on 11/01/2011 3:59:23 PM PDT by Gator113 (~Just livin' life, my way~... leaning for Newt 2012..."Save a pretzel for the gas jets.")
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To: Kaslin
Melvin: If women are shooting potential attackers, aren't they presuming guilt before innocence? What if a woman kills an attacker? Isn't that opening another whole legal can of worms?

We are told over and over again that liberals are generally more intelligent and better educated. Yet, glaring examples to the contrary are ubiquitous.

35 posted on 11/01/2011 3:59:46 PM PDT by Jagdgewehr (It will take blood. Seriously.)
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To: Kaslin

Answer: “To protect ourselves from the cops” (If needed)


36 posted on 11/01/2011 3:59:49 PM PDT by Safrguns
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To: Kaslin
Hit me Going, going, gone Now I dialed 911 a long time ago Don't you see how late they're reactin' They only come and they come when they wanna So get the morgue embalm the goner They don't care 'cause they stay paid anyway They teach ya like an ace they can't be betrayed I know you stumble with no use people If your life is on the line they you're dead today Late comings with the late comin' stretcher That's a body bag in disguise y'all betcha I call 'em body snatchers quick they come to fetch ya? With an autopsy ambulance just to dissect ya They are the kings 'cause they swing amputation Lose your arms, your legs to them it's compilation I can prove it to you watch the rotation It all adds up to a funky situation So get up get, get get down 911 is a joke in yo town Get up, get, get, get down Late 911 wears the late crown 911 is a joke Everyday they don't never come correct You can ask my man right here with the broken neck He's a witness to the job never bein' done He would've been in full in 8 9-11 Was a joke 'cause they always jokin' They the token to your life when it's croakin' They need to be in a pawn shop on a 911 is a joke we don't want 'em I call a cab 'cause a cab will come quicker The doctors huddle up and call a flea flicker The reason that I say that 'cause they Flick you off like fleas They be laughin' at ya while you're crawlin' on your knees And to the strength so go the length Thinkin' you are first when you really are tenth You better wake up and smell the real flavor Cause 911 is a fake life saver So get up, get, get get down 911 is a joke in yo town Get up, get, get, get down Late 911 wears the late crown Ow, ow 911 is a joke
37 posted on 11/01/2011 4:00:09 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: allmendream

Classy.


38 posted on 11/01/2011 4:02:08 PM PDT by Mears (I can't take anymore of this.)
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To: Kaslin

Guess my old high school best friend - who’s now a retired cop, is really out of touch when he helps me select new weapons, eh?


39 posted on 11/01/2011 4:02:11 PM PDT by Da Coyote (Ngs)
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To: Lazamataz
I don't care if he learns anything.

It's enough for me that he's beaten, ridiculed and ostracized. ;^)

40 posted on 11/01/2011 4:02:56 PM PDT by TigersEye (Life is about choices. Your choices. Make good ones.)
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