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Michele Bachmann: Why do we need a Department of Education, anyway?
Hotair ^ | 09/05/2011 | TINA KORBE

Posted on 09/05/2011 6:20:34 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

CNN’s Political Ticker isolates this element of Rep. Michele Bachmann’s reliably conservative responses at Sen. Jim DeMint’s political forum in South Carolina today, making it both a headline and lead paragraph:

Painting herself as a “constitutional conservative” Minnesota Rep. Michele Bachmann told Sen. Jim DeMint’s forum Monday that if elected president she would look to get rid of the Department of Education, among other things.

“Because the Constitution does not specifically enumerate nor does it give to the federal government the role and duty to superintend over education that historically has been held by the parents and by local communities and by state governments,” she said, responding to a question by DeMint, a popular figure among the tea party movement.

The not-so-subtle implication of PT’s prominent placement of this Bachmann statement is that it’s obviously extreme. You know those crazy “constitutional conservatives”! But is it? Abolishing the Department of Education might sound like an ultra-conservative pipe dream — and anything but advisable in the Information Age, when education is key to global competitiveness — but, perhaps, just perhaps, Bachmann has a point.

In the first place, she’s right about the Constitution. But, in the second, does the federal government actually do a better job of educating our children than would state or local governments? Naturally, questions of right and equity enter in. It is, after all, commonly accepted that children have the right to an equal education (although even that could be debated). But as regards efficacy, it’s pretty clear flexibility and freedom to address the needs of individual children enhances education.

Please don’t interpret this as an endorsement of Bachmann’s view; I’m still forming my opinions on education policy. It is, rather, a defense of the debate. The purpose and prowess of the Ed Department ought to be analyzed. And the agency, no less than any other budget-straining bit of the bureaucracy, ought to be held accountable.

This all brings me back to why I love Bachmann as a presidential candidate (if not necessarily as the GOP nominee or actual president): She says what needs to be said to move the public dialogue in a productive direction. Sometimes, she does that by simply speaking truth. Sometimes, as now, she does it by offering up views that can then be debated, discussed, shaped and molded into a more palatable — yet-ever-so-slightly-more-conservative — position in the immediate term — while leaving the possibility of her so-called “extreme” solutions open in the long term.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bachmann; education; michelebachmann; publicschools; schools
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To: SeekAndFind

Dept of Education was Carter’s baby. I think its safe now to throw that baby out!


61 posted on 09/05/2011 8:13:44 PM PDT by Soothesayer9
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To: Steelfish

I like Mrs. Bachmann, but she is a little late. Mrs. Palin brought these subject up a couple weeks ago in Iowa. It great seeing her changing the debate into things that really will mnake a difference. No matter, the more conservative voices the better. Sarah is the trend setter, she will become a candidate, she will dominate the remaining debates and she will win the Presidency!


62 posted on 09/05/2011 8:14:56 PM PDT by mazz44
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To: SeekAndFind
It isn't Constitutional; however, the primary reason to abolish te DOE is that it is a monster money eater, a labyrinth of groups jockeying for position and pork.

Every time educational failure is mentioned, the Dems answer is to throw more money at it. This money NEVER gets to the classroom. Instead, it goes to hiring more administrators that are straitly PC (they're EXTREME, but don't tell them), non thinkers, programmed little robots--I say little advisedly, not to describe girth or weight, but their brain.

63 posted on 09/05/2011 8:19:24 PM PDT by vaudine
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To: Signalman

I recall back in the 70s, once you graduated high school, you could save a bit and buy a HOUSE, or a CAR. Not anymore.


64 posted on 09/05/2011 8:21:30 PM PDT by Soothesayer9
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To: SeekAndFind

Good question! We don’t need it.


65 posted on 09/05/2011 8:23:39 PM PDT by pallis
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To: SeekAndFind

The Enemies Within Our Education system


Education Unions (the N.E.A.), School Administrators and Yes - Even Some Teachers

Worm in the Apple

What is to be Done?

Leave No Teachers Behind!

Lefty Teachers Meet the MP3 Player/REcorder



66 posted on 09/05/2011 8:27:31 PM PDT by B-Cause (The trouble with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money - Thatcher)
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To: SeekAndFind
"Why do we need a Department of Education, anyway?"

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To keep God out of our schools and teach that Heather Has Two Mommys?

67 posted on 09/05/2011 8:30:33 PM PDT by Manic_Episode (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Dept of Labor? Dept of HEW? who needs that? not anyone
who works for a living.


68 posted on 09/05/2011 8:33:56 PM PDT by RitchieAprile (breaking wind to the East..)
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To: SeekAndFind

It can be gotten rid of, but it must be done in a very Machiavellian way - First, remove it as a single department and put it under the auspices of say, Health and Human Services. Then, slowly delete the positions within that department.
Just bleed it dry, over the course of a few years.


69 posted on 09/05/2011 8:48:19 PM PDT by mkleesma (`Call to me, and I will answer you and tell you great and unsearchable things you do not know.')
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To: Pat4ever

Do not need Dept. of Education just the Board of Education applied to the seat of learning!!


70 posted on 09/05/2011 9:07:30 PM PDT by handy old one (If you play in nature be prepared to be played with by nature!)
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To: Tex-Con-Man
If they can't even defund the CPB, how in the hell are they gonna eliminate the Dept of Education? HMMMMMMM????

Sad isn't it. There was a tax from the Spanish American war that was only recently eliminated (about 7 years ago).

I would say at this moment, probably 85% of the Republicans in Congress would be totally opposed to bold moves such as eliminating the Unconstitutional Dept of Mis-Education.

I don't hold out much hope for real reform, unless we have a total economic collapse (which no one wants)

71 posted on 09/05/2011 9:34:16 PM PDT by sand88 (Sarah Palin announces: Aug 12, Opps!! didn't happen then, but soon will :)
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To: StraightDave
We are in the computer age... stop the brick and mortar approach. Give every student a computer. Use the best teachers in Webinars... fire the rest. Require school attendance 2 days a week for social interaction and eliminate the need to build more schools. Cut school taxes about 80% !

Ok stop proposing solutions that would make our Founders proud :) don't you know government is our Federal family now/sarc

If we had a truly free society, it would likely quickly evolve as you state.

72 posted on 09/05/2011 9:37:05 PM PDT by sand88 (Sarah Palin announces: Aug 12, Opps!! didn't happen then, but soon will :)
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To: Steelfish

Reagan should take lesson from Obama and selectively apply the law and do it unilaterally from the executive


73 posted on 09/05/2011 9:54:33 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: GeronL

we do not


74 posted on 09/05/2011 10:24:45 PM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: ClearCase_guy

Yep. Education and Energy were Carter boondoggles and EPA was Nixons. All are leftist departments that do more harm than good.


75 posted on 09/05/2011 10:33:19 PM PDT by Mogollon (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: SeekAndFind

I really like her position on the issues :)


76 posted on 09/05/2011 10:36:06 PM PDT by Freedom56v2 ("If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait till it is free"--PJ O'rourke)
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To: All
Bachmann came on strong in the DeMint forum: sharp and articulate. For those who missed it, look for the live thread or check online for video. It was much more revealing than the typical media debates.

Since he had to return to Texas for the wildfire emergency and couldn't make the DeMint forum, I wanted to say at the townhall with Rep. Tim Scott Monday morning, Perry echoed similar views.

Preferring local control, he said while the Dept. of Education might stay around merely as a "repository of best practices" it hadn't educated one child nor had the Dept of Energy created any energy.

77 posted on 09/06/2011 2:47:09 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Will racist demagogue Andre Carson be censured by the House?)
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To: sickoflibs
A president can't do it without Congress. The executive is limited, not all powerful, even over the agencies and departments in its branch. You wouldn't know it with Obama, however.

Early in his first term Reagan actually tried abolish of the Dept of Education through Congress and, obviously, didn't succeed.

78 posted on 09/06/2011 2:52:26 AM PDT by newzjunkey (Will racist demagogue Andre Carson be censured by the House?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Liking HER MORE, AND MORE..


79 posted on 09/06/2011 3:45:48 AM PDT by JSDude1 (December 18, 2010 the Day the radical homosexual left declared WAR on the US Military.)
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To: SeekAndFind
"They take the money from the states via Federal Tax dollars, and REDISTRIBUTE them via grants back to the states based on where they see there is the most need."

...and they do all of that for just $38 BILLION. I may be naive, but I think I could do it for only $35 BILLION!

80 posted on 09/06/2011 7:09:01 AM PDT by Baynative (The penalty for not participating in politics is you will be governed by your inferiors.)
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