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Posted on 08/04/2011 1:00:11 PM PDT by Species8472
I stuck my nose where it didn't belong with that operation in the 80’s and had at least 3 attempts against my life.
If what he's saying is true, this is a Clinton operation and you can bet the CIA has their fingers in it too.
Yes. And note that the BATF, who was running F&F, was not mentioned in the charge -- while the "DOJ and its agencies, the DEA and FBI" were.
So far as the BATF people in the field knew, they were "tracking a gunrunning operation". They didn't know that the DEA and the FBI were furnishing the cash, that the DOJ was actually running the deal as a political operation aimed at the 2nd Amendment and that the arms were actually going to a single favored cartel -- who was shipping unhindered into Chicago.
Do you see enough points of concern in that single paragraph to get really, really pissed off?
“Is there an extensive group of corrupt officials, Democratic and Republican, behind the drug smuggling?”
Our government has had its fingers in the drug running pie for at least 40 years now, so logically, people from both parties have to be involved.
“This sounds remarkably similar to the deal Whitey Bulger had...”
What is most worrisome to me is that we only find out about the most sensational of these arrangements, like the one Bulger or this cartel had. This is a basic police tactic though, so there must be thousands and thousands of these deals being made with lesser criminals across the country. If the police bust a small time dealer, they offer him a deal to rat out someone else, who they pressure to rat on someone else, etc.
Now, once the cops have made a deal with a criminal like this, he often becomes a professional informant, who the police will call on when they need information, and the informant can be rewarded for this service in a number of ways. The biggest benefit for the criminal, though, is the protection the police now offer him. He can rely on his “guardian angels” on the force to turn a blind eye to his criminal activities, and to help get him out of trouble if someone else arrests him. Of course, in order to keep this protected status, they have to keep providing information, even if they need to make something up. So, now you have already unreliable witnesses being given even more motivation to provide the police with false information.
The technique might be useful sometimes, but I think it’s just too dangerous to put police “in bed” with the criminals like this. Especially when the police are using the informant’s anonymous and unreliable testimony to get warrants sworn on people, so they can kick in doors with their paramilitary gear and shoot family pets.
Stupid me. That only occurred to me last night. Everyone wants to blame Fast and Furious on ideology. What if it's just about the money?
Personally, I think corrupt FBI agent John Connally should have been executed for murder, but they don't have the death penalty in MA. Also, the problem with Connally is that he came from the same sleazy background as Bulger, whom he even knew as a kid. That's true of too many cops: in urban Demonrat areas, the police dept. has traditionally been a jobs program for white trash, to put it bluntly.
>Is there an extensive group of corrupt officials, Democratic and Republican, behind the drug smuggling?
There is a high probability this is so; remember to Mr. Cash-in-my-freezer? (The cash was supplied and marked by the FBI [IIRC] to prove allegations of bribery.)
“Is there an extensive group of corrupt officials, Democratic and Republican, behind the drug smuggling?...”
funny you should ask...
http://whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/MENA/mena.php
After 9/11 I began to suspect Bush made a deal with the Mexican drug lords somewhat similar to the deal FDR made with the Mafia during WWII.
During WWII FDR made a deal with the Mafia to protect the docks from sabotage. It worked. Once the Mafia had control of the docks, sabotage stopped.
After 9/11 I think Bush made a deal with the Mexican drug lords to keep terrorist from coming up through the southern border, in exchange Bush wouldn't seal the border.
I think that is the opening they found and they used it.
I might be wrong, but this appears to be just like the dope running into Mena with Iran-Contra. They couldn't stop the dope running without exposing Iran-Contra, they couldn't stop this without exposing the deal Bush made with the drug lords. If it is exposed it's all on Bush.
AGREE!
I want to see evidence of ALL the $ kickbacks to govt officials in this brilliant War on Drugs latest fiasco!
Don’t tell me that this effort to curb Drugs illegally coming into the US is just an anomaly.
DEA SWAT teams shooting our veterans in their homes...and the Justice Dept wheeling and dealing cocaine on the side and Homeland Security says our borders are secure....LIES AND MORE LIES.
You are 100% on target. It’s all about money. Period!
Mena was ugly!
That’s what I think. It’s all about money!
Is that like a cross between a scanner and a handle?
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