Your writing belongs in the "fiction" section...
Posted on 06/11/2011 1:36:32 PM PDT by Brices Crossroads
This is a total waste of bandwidth, let them all run, no one owes anything to anybody....
I likek that logic. Although Ed Rollins is a creep.
This is what a lot of we Texans have been dreading and expecting. Perry WANTS to be president for his own ego, not the country.
If he senses Palin would snip 1/8 point as his VP running mate, the no dice.
He’s probably already got a female VP picked out, likely a NE Rino.
“I am not sure the numbers back up your dramatic rhetoric a la l Perry — though I think the time lines you present are instructive. I think Median self destructed and Perry would have beaten KBH anyway.”
Well, her rise was pretty steady until February 7 (her high water mark), three weeks before the primary and the day before Palin’s high profile rally with Perry. There were two polls after the rally (but before her truther comment on Beck on February 11) that showed her support falling to 17%. She wound up with nearly 20. I don’t think the comment hurt her in any material way. Most Texans probably don’t care about such matters as they are speculative and the Governor has nothing to do with foreign policy. They would be more interested in taxes like the business taxes Perry was so hot to hike. Perry might or might not have won. He certainly wanted Pain’s endorsement in the worst way. And he spoke of her as “ knowing his heart” Sheesh.
And Perry swore up and down during the 2010 campaign that he would not run for President and recently said he would only enter if Palin refused to enter.
I can barely read those comments, and his other prevarications, without my skin crawling.
Seriously, do you trust this guy? If so, please tell me the basis. He looks like southern freed Romney to me.
In recent days, I’ve made my feelings known on Bachmann. I could never trust her based on what I’ve learned about her.
As for Perry, I do not believe he can beat Palin in the primaries if both are in, but I’m going to hold fire until I find out for sure what he’s up to. From the standpoint of political philosophy he’s no Reaganite but — after years of watching him and watching people I respect express their personal admiration for him — I’ve never felt he’s a backstabber. Doesn’t mean I’m right about that but it tells me I need to know more.
We’ll see what happens with him. You’re absolutely right about the help Palin provided for him down here (although Medina may have self-destructed to some extent) and I think that’s a prime reason that the Bush family and Karl Rove despise her so much.
>> the point is that these 2 people never defended Sarah for either Tucson or anything else that was thrown at her and now they may want to run against her. <<
Uh no, that was not the point of this post, but the Tucson point you make is valid to bring up - if what you say is true.
>> I agree that everybody has the right to run but their attitude towards Sarah these last months does not indicate a very good, honest and grateful character. Character IS important for the next president if we want to save what’s left of America..<<
I am putting Bachmann/Rollins off to the side and not commenting on that, but I am not sure where Perry’s attitude is bad toward Palin. My only point, ONLY point, was that I’m not sure I agree with the dots that were connected on Palin and Perry’s election success. I am not debating the character issue.
Liberal FEAR,Palin’s nod is indeed an asset.
“So anyone who might seek the Republican nomination is being “disloyal” to Palin on the off chance she might decide to run herself?”
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That is not what the article says, and you know it.
I do not like Perry very much and he is my third choice out of the three folks discussed here - except that Bachmann is pushing him with Rollins for third, frankly. My respect for Palin remains extremely high and probably has increased with the e mail dump. She seems spotless even among the private world of email, a world that would not fine ME spotless by any stretch.
I simply am not sold, based on what you have said versus other research I have done on Perry-KBH that your rhetoric matches reality — and therefore I am not sold on your premise that Perry is violating any kind of trust.
But given the three, I’m Palin for sure.
My intuition says Bachmann and Palin will fail on their own records. As Sarah waits to announce, I think many will self-destruct. When she gets in there will be a clear choice.
I should have said “will fail on their own records AND ABILITIES”.
Why do you say that Perry is “turning on Palin”.
Show me one negative thing that Perry said about Palin.
Palin just recently brought up Perry as someone she would like to see in the presidential race.
So, what are Bachman and Perry accused of doing/saying? I haven’t heard.
Frankly, I am more concerned about beating back Mitt Romney and not because of his religion, either.
Mitt Romney is going to use the attacks on his religion to discredit the religious right and he is already doing so. By discrediting the religious right, he discredits most of the Palin supporters, as irrelevant.
WA state Republicans are setting up to endorse Romney, I’m pretty sure.
“So anyone who might seek the Republican nomination is being “disloyal†to Palin on the off chance she might decide to run herself?
None of this article makes sense on any level.”
BINGO!
Really? I don't think he's that stupid. Look at the strength of the Tea Party... they certainly have Congress' attention.
Your writing belongs in the "fiction" section...
Wow, really reaching with this scenario. Palin is not even a declared candidate. Of course the liberals try to destroy any Republican who might dare to challenge their boy Obama, so they get 2 for 1 in this article trying to “destroy” Perry and Bachmann all at once. Nice try, but laughable. Of course all the while Obama is destroying his chances by screwing things up worse than LBJ and Carter did. The economy will tell the tale in 2012 and Perry arguably has the best economic record to run on of anybody in the USA. If he runs, he will be formidable to say the least.
I see this situation developing because, as you noted, despite the phony Democrat polls and media happy talk about how great Obama's chances are for re-election (running on - what?) he is doomed to defeat. I view the Bachmann and Perry candidacies as sheer ambition on their part and understandable, to a point, although the Bachmann camp disparaging Palin remains problematic for me because it was unnecessary. I stated in an earlier post on another thread that I suspect Michele Bachmann is angling to be Romney's V.P. and that the GOP hierarchy is encouraging her as a means to thwart Palin, who they intensely dislike.
I believe that part of the problem is the fact that nobody knows what Sarah Palin will do. If she decides to sit this one out, these other conservatives will obviously vie for her endorsement and her help in fund raising as well as campaigning. An ambitious politician sees time being wasted and in Perry's case, the opportunity to run for president opening up - and they are not about to let it pass them by. Bashing Palin and showing disloyalty to her after she helped them get re-elected is troubling. However, I'm confident that if Sarah Palin chooses to run, they'll throw their support to her and all will be well because, once ambition has run it's course, we all know that defeating Obama is the real goal. I doubt Sarah Palin will be distracted from that goal, should she decide to run, as I hope she will.
I hear you, but the silence of Perry and Bachmann both after Tuscon and now after the email dump is further damning evidence, I would contend.
I am not and have not said they should not run. But both appear to be ramping up campaigns and hiring staff. If Palin’s emails and her crosshair ads for TEA party congressman are fair game for comment, I certainly think how these two have dealt with her is a fair comment on their character.
I for one, have a hard time seeing how Paul Laxalt or Jack Kemp, friends and ideological soulmates of Ronald Reagan’s but for whom Reagan had done much less politically than Palin has done for Bachmann or Perry, could have brought themselves to challenge the Gipper in a GOP primary. Congressman Phil Crane, however, was a Reagan protege who challenged the Gipper in 1980 and drew 7% of the vote in Iowa, allowing GHW Bush to win 33-31. Crane had every right to run, but after Reagan’s election, Crane became a pariah. Bush and Baker and Dole were all welcomed back into the fold, but Crane never got back in, even though he was a staunch conservative. The Reaganites considered him to be stalking horse and a quisling, and they never trusted him again.
Trust is the coin of the realm in politics. Neither Bachmann nor Perry (if as looks very likely, both run) will have covered themselves in glory and they are going to have to answer the character question.
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