[SoothsayerToo]

Here all these years I thought I was a natural born citizen. Imagine my surprise to find out according to some folks here that I am not. I was Born on US soil to two wonderful parents, married then, and still married, who were blessed to have a sponsor many years ago. At the time of my birth they were three years away from becoming US Citizens.

I tried for the last two hours to come up with an appropriate and reasoned response. Alas I cannot, I have a small business to tend to in the morning which is coming way to soon, with way too much idiot paperwork because of government bureaucrats. Paperwork devised by govt bureaucrats who use the same type of small minded idiot reasoning that is used by some of the birthers on Free Republic and elsewhere(like WND)

[cynwoody]

I was Born on US soil to two wonderful parents, married then, and still married

Are you over 35? So, get off your ass and form that exploratory committee. You are eligible, and you are more qualified than Newtie Boy or the MittWit! For starters.

[bgill]

Here all these years I thought I was a natural born citizen. Imagine my surprise to find out according to some folks here that I am not.

Sorry you feel that way but the "small minded idiot reasoning that is used by some of the birthers on Free Republic" didn't just pull that out of our backsides. Don't take a birther's word, do your own research on Vattel, Law of Nations, and Senate Resolution 511. http://ubirevera.blogivists.com/2008/12/29/according-to-chertoff-obama-not-constitutionally-qualified-for-potus/ Obama, Clinton and four others were on the SR511 committee to determine McCain's NBC. While they got it wrong, since they failed to see that he wasn't born on a US military base but in the city of Colon, they agreed with Chertoff on the definition of NBC being born on US soil of TWO US CITIZEN PARENTS: "Secretary Chertoff. My assumption and my understanding is that if you are born of American parents, you are naturally a natural-born American citizen. Chairman Leahy. That is mine, too. Thank you." Leahey used to have the entire thing on his official website but it's been scrubbed. This is the closest I could find at the moment that addresses the discussion. The Kenyan usurper signed his name to that so let's see him wiggle out of that.

[22cal]

Natural Born (jus soli AND jus sanguinus) is a requirement for President in my view. Else why did the Chester Arthur feel compelled to lie and hide facts about his birth, including burning all his personal papers before his death? It was recently discovered that his father was not a citizen until Arthur was 14 years old, so Arthur was not qualified. To me it is irrational to discount such historical evidence as such behavior which points to the meaning of Natural Born.

That does not mean I think Obama will be removed or that this issue is a winning one in 2012, but I am fond of intellectual honesty.

[Myrddin]

Unless you are planning to run for President of the United States, your lack of being an NBC doesn't matter a hill of beans. The only reason anyone gives a rip at this point is that it appeared to be the simplest way to head off having a Marxist, muslim, anti-American sitting in the White House. We tried fervently before he was elected. Our concerns about him have come true, but the one simple way to boot his ineligible butt out of the office have been thwarted. Much of the damage that has been done is irreversible. The ass clowns that let this go on are as much to blame as the perpetrator himself.

[dinodino]

Why do you care that you are not natural born citizen? It only matters for the Presidency. You are a citizen, just not natural born.

[Munz]

>Here all these years I thought I was a natural born citizen. Imagine my surprise to find out according to some folks here that I am not. I was Born on US soil to two wonderful parents, married then, and still married, who were blessed to have a sponsor many years ago. At the time of my birth they were three years away from becoming US Citizens.<

I know what you mean and I understand your frustration. But you must admit that a lot of people here have gone to a lot of trouble to find out what the framers meant by the term “Natural Born Citizen” as it pertains to only ONE office in the entire country.

It has absolutely no reflection on you, your parents or anything else. You are not seeking to be president of the united states I don’t imagine. Maybe senator, or congressman, alderman or county legislator. That is all fine and dandy.
We are talking about one office that was intended to hold 1/4 of the power of the entire government of our United states with one person. They wanted to make sure that that person had been brought up in the ways of an American household. With American Ideals.

I myself am a NBC. But my parents were not. their parents were immigrants from Italy. And even two generations later, we still celebrated traditional Italian customs in food, greetings and family affairs. My children do not, but it has taken several generations to get passed “the old country”

Imagine back when the revolutionary war was on, how the founders must have feared one person (such as the king) having so much power, that he virtually ran without restraint from any congress, judges, church or anyone.
They were taking their very lives into their hands at the time going against him.

Certainly they never wanted anyone to wield that type of power ever again in our nation. They even knew that they did not have a NBC at the time which is why they added in the line “or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution”

There were people old enough at the age of 35. but none that would have had parents that were born here. So they had to make an exception for themselves so someone could hold that very special office.

Please, PLEASE don’t take this personally. I am just proud and damn happy to be an American. As i am sure that you are from how you write. I think your parents were as well. Just realize that none of this matters to anyone except someone who wants to control 1/4 of the government.

the person who holds that kind of power should be raised without the old customs and thoughts that are naturally inherited from parents to children.