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Expert: No Doubt Obama's Birth Certificate Is Legit
Fox News ^ | 4/29/11 | Jana Winter

Posted on 04/29/2011 5:52:16 PM PDT by Nachum

It didn’t take long for some of President Obama’s doubters to claim the long-awaited birth certificate posted online by the White House on Wednesday had been altered or might be a fake.

But a leading software expert says there’s no doubt about its authenticity, and he dismisses claims of fraud as flat-out wrong.

The doubters have latched onto the idea that Adobe Illustrator — the premier program for computer graphic artists — “reveals” evidence of document manipulation in the Obama birth certificate. They note Illustrator reveals nine separate layers of the document, and claim it’s “proof” the file has been altered.

But that’s not so, says Jean-Claude Tremblay, a leading software trainer and Adobe-certified expert, who has years of experience working with and teaching Adobe Illustrator.

“You should not be so suspicious about this,” Tremblay told FoxNews.com, dismissing the allegations.

Related Links Obama Birth Certificate Moved to More Secure Location Months Ago

He said the layers cited by doubters are evidence of the use of common, off-the-shelf scanning software — not evidence of a forgery. “I have seen a lot of illustrator documents that come from photos and contain those kind of clippings—and it looks exactly like this,” he said.

Tremblay explained that the scanner optical character recognition (OCR) software attempts to translate characters or words in a photograph into text. He said the layers cited by the doubters shows that software at work – and nothing more.

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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: birth; birthcertificate; bsexpert; certificate; certifigate; colbfake; expert; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamas
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To: john mirse

as I sarcastically wrote 2 years ago Obama was born on Gilligans Island...it still makes more sense than a lot that has come out of Hawaii....maybe Lee was the registrar for “outer” islands.../s


601 posted on 04/30/2011 4:38:11 PM PDT by rolling_stone ( *this makes Watergate look like a kiddie pool*)
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To: Nachum

Where do the get these experts anyway? Fox is always bringing them in too...........


602 posted on 04/30/2011 4:44:41 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (It's a beautiful day and I'm glad I can see it in color.......)
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To: Nachum; BenLurkin; LucyT; Polarik; bgill; Hotlanta Mike; null and void; Fred Nerks; melancholy; ...
Jean-Claude Tremblay in an Obama stooge.

Jean-Claude Tremblay was the name of a fairly well-known, now-deceased, former NHL hockey player, a French-Canadian. Could be that the name is being used as an alias in this context and/or that this whole story is nothing more than a hoax.

603 posted on 04/30/2011 4:52:23 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: rodguy911

they have been busted!

The FRAUDS did not know that the only ID that Barack Obama had in 1961 showed he was born on June 18, 1934!


604 posted on 04/30/2011 4:52:32 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Tatze
Seriously, some of these theories are really way out there.

You mean like them showing that Barack Obama was 25 years old in 1961? His passport said that he was born on June 18, 1934. Do the math!
605 posted on 04/30/2011 4:55:41 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
I can’t help it that you’re so wrapped up in this conspiracy theory that you can’t see daylight.

Have you found the daylight yet?
606 posted on 04/30/2011 4:57:02 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: justiceseeker93
Tremblay was so famous that I'm sure some folks named their kids after him.

ML/NJ

607 posted on 04/30/2011 5:03:56 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: MestaMachine

Thanks, Mesta. Hey do I remember you posting up thread a pic of the layer with the white and the grayscale number 1? I wish you could post that again showing the whole thing, if possible. I think the black left on that layer is what is actually on Obama’s true original document. His true document has a number ending in 1. And whatever else is on that one layer.


608 posted on 04/30/2011 5:13:43 PM PDT by daisy mae for the usa
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To: Brown Deer; MestaMachine

Did y’all happen to notice my question in #586? Still waiting for an answer.


609 posted on 04/30/2011 5:17:00 PM PDT by daisy mae for the usa
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To: Brown Deer
B.D.: All records and identification that he had in 1961 showed him as a student alien from Kenya born on June 18, 1934! The birth certificate is a fraud! _________________________________________ Seems to me that Obama Sr. had little to do with SAD and most likely was not involved with supplying data for the Obama Jr. birth record. I expect that all the information on the BC was provided by Stanley or her parents. It is very likely that he had told them his age was 25 or they had so little interaction with him that they didn't know for certain. There certainly is no evidence that Obama Sr. had to be around for the birth since his signature is not present on the document. A document can only be a fraud if the person providing the information knowingly falsifies the information. At least that is my best guess of the events as they transpired. Notice the incosistency in Obama Sr. age claims throughout the years. In some of those examples in the immigration papers, the data was handwritten which implies that Obama himself entered the data. At some point, he was obviously perjuring himself since he uses both 1934 and 1936 although the reason for such is beyond my understanding. Perhaps this has something to do with the time travel that was hinted at on the other FREEP link that had been posted by patlin
610 posted on 04/30/2011 5:17:33 PM PDT by visually_augmented (I was blind, but now I see)
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To: ctdonath2

duh DUHYHUhhhhhuhhhuhhduh DUHduhudhudhhhhhDuuuUUUuuhhhh is what you should have said you idiot moron

The computer does not know if you have any INTENT to edit, and that does not make any difference to this argument you COULD edit it if you wanted to, once the OCR is done.

OCR tries to make text and words from a picture. Is that simple enough for you? dumbass? IT TAKES A PICTURE AND TRIES TO GENERATE THE WORDS AS TEXT that is all I ever said.

I have written imaging software for a living, so excuse me if my “ramblings” sound too authoritive and hysterical for you.

I know what computers and digital scanning software can do- it cannot do this THE WAY THEY WANT YOU TO THINK it has been done.

Instead of attacking other freepers if you dont like this issue FIND ONE YOU DO LIKE and go after Obama would you please?

This one just happens to be WHAT I DO FOR A LIVING

Proof of forgery would be more than vapid.


611 posted on 04/30/2011 5:20:02 PM PDT by Mr. K (this administration is WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY~!! [Palin/Bachman 2012])
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To: daisy mae for the usa

I noticed it, but don’t know the answer.


612 posted on 04/30/2011 5:23:59 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: daisy mae for the usa
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As for your other question, how did you get that? Wheredid it come from? If I can dupe it, then I can maybe answer.

613 posted on 04/30/2011 5:24:41 PM PDT by MestaMachine (If you want to pillage,plunder,destroy, blaspheme,or defile, become a muslim, or name yourself obama)
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To: Mr. K

Mr. K, I was wondering if you wouldn’t mind taking a minute to help me find an answer to my question in #586? Link:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2712636/posts?page=586#586


614 posted on 04/30/2011 5:27:25 PM PDT by daisy mae for the usa
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To: Nachum

http://alohareporter.com/2010/03/hawaii-considering-law-to-ignore-obama-birthers/ What about this one from the Aloha Reporter. Seems in 2010, that was another BC for obama but this one says he was born is kenya.http://alohareporter.com/2010/03/hawaii-considering-law-to-ignore-obama-birthers/


615 posted on 04/30/2011 5:27:33 PM PDT by rambo316
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To: visually_augmented
Notice the incosistency in Obama Sr. age claims throughout the years.

There is no inconsistency at all. He used the date of June 18, 1934 from the time that he entered the U.S. until he left Hawaii. Everything after Hawaii in mid 1962 shows 1936.
616 posted on 04/30/2011 5:29:03 PM PDT by Brown Deer (Pray for 0bama. Psalm 109:8)
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To: Nachum

What a load of crap. Expert?

I DL’d the PDF from the WH website & I can point out numerous spots where scanned bitmap pieces are photo shopped in. And it isn’t hard to see.


617 posted on 04/30/2011 5:30:53 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ( If you can remember the 60s....you weren't really there)
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To: bluecat6

ping to save, and,

Thank you for this and some other excellent posts of yours that I’ve seen in some other threads over the past couple of days!


618 posted on 04/30/2011 5:31:16 PM PDT by zzeeman ("We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality.")
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To: john mirse

J.M.:”I believe we need to do some serious in-depth reseach on Lee and Beatrice to find out why Lee signed Obama’s birth certificate, while Beatrice, the Deputy Registrar, signed the Nordyke twins birth certificate.”

I agree that it would be interesting to get examples of other BC’s with signatures of both Lee and Beatrice that originate from Kapiolani. But I had been comparing the two documents as well and noticed that the Nordyke twins had a signature of the ATTENDANT (doctor) on August 11 - three days after Obama’s attendant signed his BC. I guess the Nordyke doctor had to take a few days off after delivering twins. So it does not seem too incredible that the two registrars might be different people.


619 posted on 04/30/2011 5:32:27 PM PDT by visually_augmented (I was blind, but now I see)
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To: MestaMachine

One thing I read on one of these threads is that in insurance contracts, when they use abstracts, they write a number reference in the place of the abstracted part. Wonder if those faded numbers are this type of system? Also, at the bottom where the date stamp is, which is not shown in this image you just posted, some of the numbers remain in black. The numbers that remain are different on either side. I think these are clues as well.


620 posted on 04/30/2011 5:34:09 PM PDT by daisy mae for the usa
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