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1 posted on 04/27/2011 7:00:06 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Here is an e-mail I just sent to the author of this article:

Daniel,
Your article really does a disservice to the truth on this issue. Since the beginning of this issue the real question has been ignored. What is the legal definition of the term ‘natural born citizen’ in the Constitution? Can you have two foreign born parents (but be born in America) and still be President? Or one foreign parent? Or do you need to be born of two American citizen parents as has been the definition for most of country’s history and was so at the time of our Founding.

This question you will notice is never addressed by the MSM at all, nor by even many alternative media outlets as well. The birth certificate issue has been set up as a smoke screen in order to deflect from this, the real question that needs to be answered.

A lawyer in my state of New Jersey has tried to pursue this question legally but of course to no avail. It is an extremely important issue and should not be discarded or ridiculed. Here is his website explaining the issue:

http://naturalborncitizen.wordpress.com/

We have today a democrat political party that has objectives to maintain open borders and grant amnesty to illegal’s entering this nation. This same political party would also like to eliminate the electoral college in order to have the mass population centers (cities) rule the voting process, and now also we have a movement on the left to do away the ‘natural born citizen’ requirement in the Constitution thus allowing someone with foreign allegiances to become President. This is a prescription for the demise of our nation.

If you care about this nation and the rule of law then I implore you to address the real issue involving Presidential eligibility under the Constitution.

Thank you for your time,


64 posted on 04/27/2011 7:32:23 AM PDT by TheBigIf
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This appears to be a certified photocopy (created two days ago) of an original COLB, and as such, is a legal document. Did people really expect that they would be presented with the actual file document? It's real. The shadowing around the letters is not due to subterfuge but to the fact that it is simply a photocopy of an original document. Look at Donald Trump's certificate - it's not an "original", either, but an old photostat (negative image) of the original.

Can we finally admit that Obama's political operation has been using this nonsense as a means of making his adversaries look paranoid, and that fact, rather than anything secret about his birth, is what he has been "hiding" all this time?

69 posted on 04/27/2011 7:35:02 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (America does not need to be organized: it needs to be liberated.)
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“It’s a Nice Day for a White Wedding!”

Event Date Time Measure
Mother Born 11/29/1942
Barack Conceived 11/7/1960 17.95 Years
Dunham / Obama Shotgun Wedding 2/2/1961 2.9 Months
Barack Born 8/4/1961 6.1 Months


71 posted on 04/27/2011 7:35:08 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (0bamanomics: Trickle Up Poverty.)
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Which one is fake? Photobucket Photobucket Photobucket
72 posted on 04/27/2011 7:35:23 AM PDT by mojitojoe ( 1400 years of existence & Islam has 2 main accomplishments, psychotic violence and goat curry)
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87 posted on 04/27/2011 7:46:24 AM PDT by Iron Munro
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Ok one more thing that makes no since according to the document obama was borned at the Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital but all I can find for a name of the hospital is
Kauikeolani Children’s Hospital opened in 1909 named for Emma Kauikeolani Napoleon Mahelona (1862–1931), the wife of Albert Spencer Wilcox (1844–1919).[1] In 1978, it merged with KapiÊ»olani Maternity Home to become KapiÊ»olani Medical Center for Women and Children from wikipedia

Can someone smarter than me find out if it was ever called what they claim Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital Because if it was not called that in 61 or never called that one more bogus thing and one not easy to wiggle out of thanks


99 posted on 04/27/2011 7:53:23 AM PDT by mouser (Run the rats out its the only chance we have)
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Didn’t this guy read the BIG BOLD PRINT AT THE TOP OF THE DOCUMENT??


106 posted on 04/27/2011 7:58:22 AM PDT by trozz
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the last number “1” in the Cert # looks a little whacked in relation to the other “1”s in the number


141 posted on 04/27/2011 8:32:09 AM PDT by stylin19a
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...the President’s campaign requested his birth certificate from the state of Hawaii.
The "campaign" couldn't request, much less receive, a birth certificate because it conflicts with the privacy laws.

When will Congress act since it's now known that his father wasn't a US citizen and a child of his loins can't be a natural born citizen?

162 posted on 04/27/2011 9:02:45 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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“In 2008, in response to media inquiries, the President’s campaign requested his birth certificate from the state of Hawaii.”

Minor point but his Communications Director shoiuld strive to be accurate. The short form certification was stamped June 6, 2007.


165 posted on 04/27/2011 9:16:07 AM PDT by ironman
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I feel pretty nuts asking this question but can manifests of flights around the time Obama and Mama left Kenya.

See, I told you it was nutty...hard day of housework. Housewifery is tough.

Manifests are probably tossed by now, but I'm thinking we might find something if we look at Mama rather than Obama. Passports, adoption papers, people who might recall her, etc.

After the Kenyan village where Mama was living around relative. An aunt said she helped with birthing and television report aired them ecstatic that one of there could by the POTUS.

Then suddenly there seemed to be a blackout of news from Kenya. Was the relative living illegally in US interviewed? She went to Inaugural Ball, I think but she lives pretty poorly in government housing. Anything from her?

So far I have heard:

1) Born in Hawaii
2) Born in Kenya with Mother attended by Obama clan.
3) Born in Mombasa Hospital.

All three of these I have gotten from Free Republic but I don't know how I can find them since I've read so many of these threads.

My point is to pretty much ratchet investigation on Obama and backtrack over Mother's activities. Are any of the Grandparents still living? Are ANY of his relatives that were close enough to Obama who might know. FOR KRISTINN (SIC)...I NEED TO PUT IN MY $ FOR THE DRIVE. WHY DO MONTHLY DONATIONS GET PUSHED? I'VE ALWAYS PUT $ TO CHARITIES AND FREE REPUBLIC - I HAVEN'T DONATED AS MUCH AS I SHOULD HAVE - SO I WANT TO GET IT RIGHT. THANKS. ALSO, HOW BEST TO $ TO TEA PARTIERS. IS THERE ONE TEA PARTY THAT IS BEST TO DONATE TO.

187 posted on 04/28/2011 6:08:09 PM PDT by hummingbird (Help keep Guam from tilting.)
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Why would 2008 COLB look a-ok but under such scrutiny now?

Who in the government was responsible for vetting him for candicy?

I may have misread this somewhere. Hawaii was so low in population that they used COLB for both Hawaiin born and anybody who was born out of Hawaii but needed to be certified.

Did his Mother have a birth certificate being born in US? Would she have had to be certified COLB in order to live in Hawaii? How did Hawaii register, specifically, grown people who would presumable have had a BC from when they were born in anybody born outside of Hawaii at time of Obama's birth? So many questions. Would his time in Indonesia have affected/complicated his citizenship elsewhere? There are many timelimes that must be met in order for parents returning to US with children born outside US, aren't there? Any immigration specialists out there? Doesn't he have friends or school mates who know him enough to give him a fist or chest bump? If I was not scandalized by my relation, I would be a party queen that my friend or relative was POTUS! How come NO ONE that I've heard of from his past has come forward for Barbara Walters to interview?

188 posted on 04/28/2011 7:08:00 PM PDT by hummingbird (Help keep Guam from tilting.)
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Why would 2008 COLB look a-ok but under such scrutiny now?

Who in the government was responsible for vetting him for candicy?

I may have misread this somewhere. Hawaii was so low in population that they used COLB for both Hawaiin born and anybody who was born out of Hawaii but needed to be certified.

Did his Mother have a birth certificate being born in US? Would she have had to be certified COLB in order to live in Hawaii? How did Hawaii register, specifically, grown people who would presumable have had a BC from when they were born in anybody born outside of Hawaii at time of Obama's birth? So many questions. Would his time in Indonesia have affected/complicated his citizenship elsewhere? There are many timelimes that must be met in order for parents returning to US with children born outside US, aren't there? Any immigration specialists out there? Doesn't he have friends or school mates who know him enough to give him a fist or chest bump? If I was not scandalized by my relation, I would be a party queen that my friend or relative was POTUS! How come NO ONE that I've heard of from his past has come forward for Barbara Walters to interview?

189 posted on 04/28/2011 7:08:19 PM PDT by hummingbird (Help keep Guam from tilting.)
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