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Seattle couple murdered by pirates; Would guns on board be smart?
Seattle Gun Rights Examiner ^ | 22 February, 2011 | Dave Workman

Posted on 02/23/2011 8:10:07 PM PST by marktwain

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To: PSYCHO-FREEP

2X6 would be great. Leave it on 2X and have the higher power for calm water or ashore.


121 posted on 02/24/2011 11:16:54 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Little Ray

No, aimed, as accurate as possible fire from accurate rifles with low power optics will totally each an AK’s “allah-fire” mode.

Contrary to common jihadist belief, allah does NOT steer bullets toward infidels. I’m glad they believe it, though.


122 posted on 02/24/2011 11:19:08 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: samtheman; smokingfrog

No “gun exchange” is needed. The common practice is to buy an AK or an Enfield or whatever at a bazzaar in Yemen going up the Red Sea to Egypt. Then before arriving home in Australia a year or two later, you toss it overboard. Or not.

Not too many southbounds to the Red Sea: most folks circumnavigating the other way around head from Brazil or the Canaries to South Africa, then to the Indian Ocean. But I imagine guns can be picked up in the eastern Med too. Probably not like the $25 Kalashnikovs in Yemen though.


123 posted on 02/24/2011 11:32:00 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: marktwain

Thanks. Wierd knowledge like this makes me a better author as well. I can’t count the books with novelists creating characters who shoot 20X sniper rifles from small craft like they were on the bench at the range. It just makes me think these writers don’t know CRAP about anything else outside of my area knowledge. Thumb safeties on Glocks, two-inch “silencers” on magnum revolvers etc.


124 posted on 02/24/2011 11:36:06 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Bridge_toofar
India does not tolerate pirates. There is 1/10th violent crime in India per capita compared to United States. So he is actually safer there than in Chicago, LA or NY or Miami, by far.

You're kidding, right?

India does NOT tolerate guns in the hands of it's citizens. OR it's police it seems. Of course I refer to the Mumbai terrorist attacks (when was the last time that sort of terror attack happened in Chicago, NY or MIAMI? I live in Miami and feel far safer with my CCW permit and my 45 than I would anywhere overseas, especially India). In those attacks the Indian police were so poorly armed and so COWARDLY that they ran and hid amongst the unarmed victims all around them rather than to try and engage and destroy the terrorist threat. Don't tell me India does not tolerate pirates or criminals. The entire subcontinent just barely clawed it's way out of being third world in status with the technological revolution we threw their way with NAFTA & GATT allowing our companies to do cheaper business on their soil than they can do on our soil. Criminy, they still spit on the "untouchables" and believe washing in fresh cow pee is a sign of good fortune!

125 posted on 02/24/2011 12:13:06 PM PST by ExSoldier ("Life without God is like an unsharpened pencil: It has no point.")
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To: marktwain; Travis McGee
My best friend's family used to cruise the Caribbean in their 46 foot Morgan ketch during the summers. I sometimes went along as "crew." His dad kept several firearms on board: A mini-14 in 5.56mm, and several 1911 45's. And there was a HUGE old H&H 375 magnum loaded with 500gr solids that the old man used to lovingly refer to as his engine room gun because he could durn near incapacitate any inboard engine with those loads very quickly. Put enough holes at the waterline thereafter and there is a good chance he could send said vessel down to Davy Jones Locker, too. We were never threatened on any of those trips during the 1970s. Never had problems with customs, either, when making port. These days the biggest pirate threat in the Carribbean Sea isn't private interest pirates but rather the Haitian and Cuban navies. A good sized American yacht carries enough electronics and other goodies to equal many times the combined pay of the crews on those gunboats. Then of course there is the pay to be had from dopers who will buy the vessel to use in a drug run before scuttling the evidence in the Straits of Florida. The crew and families are of course, killed. Men first, women much later...
126 posted on 02/24/2011 12:24:04 PM PST by ExSoldier ("Life without God is like an unsharpened pencil: It has no point.")
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To: Travis McGee

I remember reading a Jack London story about a sharpshooter on a schooner in the South Pacific that got attacked by about a thousand “islanders” while anchored in a harbor and the rifleman sat up in the whatever up in the mast picking them off until his gun got to hot to hold.

Something like that. The story stuck in my mind.


127 posted on 02/24/2011 12:53:19 PM PST by samtheman
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To: Travis McGee

We referred to that as adjusted point of aim... very valuable skill to hone. Here on my sea of wheat and cattle we routinely will take snap shots at yotes and sod poodles well over a 1000 yards and adjust POA versus any correction to optics. Not enough time to “dial it in”....yotes, sod poodles, pirates, terrorists...same same cept sod poodles and yotes have ethics.

Never did any shooting on open ocean / blue water like you describe. Had to be tough.

Hope yer well......Stay safe !


128 posted on 02/24/2011 2:37:49 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Travis McGee

The bungie cords. Yes that’s it. I was racking my brain trying to think where I’ve seen something like that.

But I won’t have to worry about hiding one. Being land locked, not necessarily a landlubber, and in poor financial straights; I’m not likely to be equipping an ocean going vessel of any size, any time soon. Let alone dropping the Benjamin’s for a Barrett.

It was Just a mental exercise on how to layer defenses in the unlikely event that I win the lottery and decide to take to the sea.

Thanks for the input.


129 posted on 02/24/2011 2:59:49 PM PST by AFreeBird
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To: Travis McGee
$25 Kalashnikovs

Yeee-haww!

I'll take a dozen.

130 posted on 02/24/2011 3:02:03 PM PST by smokingfrog ( BORN free - taxed to DEATH (and beyond) ...)
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To: smokingfrog

Plenty of customers do. Throw in an RPD if you buy 20.


131 posted on 02/24/2011 5:26:59 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: AFreeBird; Squantos; ExSoldier

Check out this boat, and imagine it re-converted as an anti-piracy Q-ship. It was converted from a 174’ fishing vessel that used to be on “The Deadliest Catch.” It carries a 35’ speedboat, a helo and an airplane.

http://www.yachtforums.com/forums/yacht-escort-ships-shadows/8955-review-yacht-escort-ships-yes-173-suri.html

Keep the fishing vessel profile to act as pirate bait, to lure them into range. Then pick them off with style, with your hidden Bofors and Otto-Maleras.


132 posted on 02/24/2011 5:32:13 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: marktwain; samtheman; Dead Corpse; maica; Freee-dame
My next boat, if I strike it rich.

From the link above. Many more photos there.


133 posted on 02/24/2011 5:34:41 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

That’s frick’n sweet!

I recall back in the late 80’s early 90’, living in FLA and having a subscription to “Motoboating & Sailing”; and article about a similar setup. A converted oil rig supply ship, with a V cut out of the stern to accommodate a, IIRC, 45’~55’ sport fish.

The mothship was set up for world cruising. Two full walk in fridge/freezer combos, and a half dozen or so staterooms. Stocedk to the gills with provisions.

The mothship was called “Madam” and the sport fish was “Hooker”.

This is a similar setup, but the owner is not so much into fishing. Still a sweet setup.


134 posted on 02/24/2011 5:47:21 PM PST by AFreeBird
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To: AFreeBird

I remember that. It was a way for a rich sportfisherman to get a big sportfish like a Bertram 40 to the great fishing areas of the world.

A lot cheaper to fly there and charter, but it was his dime.


135 posted on 02/24/2011 5:54:38 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

I didn’t see ONE cup holder....?!?!?

....:o)

That is a nice boat !


136 posted on 02/24/2011 5:55:08 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Travis McGee

Yea, but if you like the sea, and want to go fishing, wherever, flying isn’t gonna cut it. And like you said, it was his dime.


137 posted on 02/24/2011 5:59:07 PM PST by AFreeBird
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To: Squantos

And much smarter than the typical James Bond Italian-styled sleek megayacht.

SuRi’s profile at anchor says “working vessel” or “research vessel.”

What it doesn’t say is, “Private yacht, with more gold and other valuables aboard than your entire nation’s GNP.”


138 posted on 02/24/2011 6:00:45 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee
This...

Just plain old cool. ;-)

139 posted on 02/24/2011 6:15:50 PM PST by Dead Corpse (III%. The last line in the sand)
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To: Travis McGee
I may be landlocked, but I have a few lakes nearby where a twin cockpit barrel backed runabout would work quite nicely.

8 or 12 cylinder? The "garage" is a nice touch.

140 posted on 02/24/2011 6:17:59 PM PST by AFreeBird
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