Posted on 12/19/2010 12:25:15 PM PST by Jim Robinson
Can anyone just march into a recruiting office and demand his constitutionally guaranteed civil RIGHT to serve? Or does he first have to qualify? Mentally, educationally, physically, healthwise, morally, etc?
Wanted: A few good MEN (girly-men in a pinch)
Inane proposition...to suggest those who do not support fags in the military are immature. It's not a question of maturity, but whether it adds to unit cohesiveness and readiness..."maturity" argues against it.
Run your social experiments somewhere else.
I don't think Klinger was presented as gay, but as a cross-dresser.
Or ten...or twenty. Very well said.
Well, I gotta say I don’t know too many hetero cross-dressers !!!
The producers could get away with the cross-dressing, but even when M.A.S.H. was making its run on the nets in the 70’s they couldn’t have gotten away with casting him as a swishy ‘fairy,’ as they were then called.
It’s not a matter of maturity, or ability. It’s a matter of propriety.
There is no privacy in the military, and quite often, women are put into situations where they must dress in front of other women, room with other women, or even shower with other women. What’s the difference between putting a lesbian into that situation, or putting a man there? (Same applies to men and gays.)
Every member of the military must undergo a urinalysis test for drug abuse at least once a year. The sample must be given in the presence of a witness, usually some E5 (who is NOT a medical personnel). It’s bad enough giving the sample with a heterosexual of your own gender watching—I think, if a known gay were assigned to watch people pee in the cup, a lot of people would choose to disobey a direct order (to submit to the test) rather than have a known gay watch them pee in a cup.
Bottom line: in a situation where the sexes are normally segregated, and mixing men and women would be unthinkable—for instance, in a gym locker room—there is no room for an open homosexual. It causes too much emotional distress for everyone concerned.
That was the policy before DADT. A true repeal of DADT would be a return to that policy.
And there exists a solution. You make a case that this law is a dreadful mistake. You sell this case to the American people. You support politicians who will reverse this law and you do what you can to see them elected into office! That's really all there is to it! Sound difficult? It shouldn't. This is exactly what liberals did. They made a case for gays in the military, sold this case to the American people and got the politicians elected to make it happen. Liberals get stuff done and all we can do is bellyache?
Sometimes democracy sucks but if I choose to serve, I don't get to choose the military I want. I serve in the military America wants and at the end of the day, the military America wants is the one they're going to get.
I would disagree with that. This isn't Heinline's "Starship Troopers" world. Service in the military is a privileged that not everyone is qualified for. It requires a certain kind of person, and not everyone fits the mold. Having said that, if a person wants to join the military for the right reasons - patriotism, service, sense of duty, desire to protect our country and what it stands for - then I'm not sure that sexual orientation should be an automatic disqualifier. DADT is history. I don't like the way this change has been forced upon the military, but there is is. Still if my military service taught me anything it's that the United States Armed Forces as an institution is pretty resilient. It has survived a lot of tinkering and interference over the years, it will survive this. All this talk about how it will destroy discipline does no credit to the hundreds of thousands of men and women who will not let it do that.
That’s what I remember too, the whole reason for DADT was to placate the homosexual’s in the first place, so now we need to return to the policy before DADT. Reject them all, let God sort it out.
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