Posted on 11/04/2010 3:13:46 AM PDT by markomalley
LOL! Still working on it... :-)
Do you think Georgians were stupid?
Do you think if they had meant "tarriffs" they were too dumb to say "tarriffs"? The word they used was "bounties" implying a subsidy from the treasury.
And once again, note a brief history of US tarriffs:
So the Morrill rates were not particularly high by historic standards, and the South had not threatened secession over previous, much higher rates.
Furthermore, the Morrill Tarriff could not have even passed, had the South remained united in Congress to oppose it.
So your arguments that high tarriffs caused the South's secession is a red-herring and bogus to the max, pal.
Both the original Articles of Confederation and the new Constitution were understood at the time as being "perpetual" Unions.
According to James Madison (you remember him?) the Union could be dissolved only through "mutual consent" or from "usurpations" and "abuses" having that effect.
Madison wrote at the time that the Constitution must be adopted in whole, and forever -- and later that no state could secede "at pleasure".
In 1860 and 1861, there was no "mutual consent" and also no "usurpations" or "abuses".
Instead, the South seceded "at pleasure" because of the election of a Congress and President which the South feared might threaten slavery at some point in the future.
Then the seceding states began immediately to attack and seize dozens federal properties, including forts, armories, ships, customs facilities and a mint.
Seceding "at pleasure" made it a Constitutional "rebellion."
Using force to seize Federal properties made it a Constitutional "insurrection."
That's the bottom line.
I've seen clearly that you post "anti-Lincoln, anti-Republican... arguments," and that they are insane nonsense, believable only by Pro-Confederate Lost Causers.
Any association of Lincoln's Republicans with today's Democrat big-government socialists is ludicrous in the extreme.
There is simply no valid comparison of Lincoln's efforts to save the Union and abolish slavery, with our modern liberal-progressive socialist government-is-everything Democrats.
Indeed, in terms of keeping people in bondage and dependent for welfare on "massa" government, I'd say today's Democrats are the direct descendants of Civil War slave owners.
As for Lincoln being "pure tyrant," more baloney.
In fact, Lincoln was far more subject to Constitutional constraints than any modern president -- in peace or war time.
Yes, the Constitution provides the government with extra powers during war, but Lincoln used his authority no more "tyrannically" than did, for example, Jefferson Davis.
So the whole idea of Lincoln and Republicans as "bad guys" is just garbage talk.
And I'm being very kind calling you a legitimate "Neo-Confederate Lost Causer."
What I really think is that some/most of our supposedly conservative "lost causers" are really just Democrat trolls, doing their d*mndest to stir up trouble amongst real conservatives.
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