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To: little jeremiah
All men are created equal doesn't mean that a criminal, or psychotic, has the same duties, responsibility or rights as a normally functioning member of society.

Those found guilty of crimes have their rights curtailed by law as prescribed by law. What's so difficult to understand?

What I mean by "having a seat at the table" is simply the ability to engage in civic life just like everyone else. Just like I believe you have the ability to engage in civic life and promote whatever agenda you wish to promote. Free marketplace of ideas.

341 posted on 11/09/2010 6:47:36 AM PST by Hemingway's Ghost (Spirit of '75)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost

“Engage in civic life just like everyone else”.

You are deft in avoiding specifics. In fact, that is one of your methods.

Do you mean to say that homosexuals are not or were not allowed in movie theaters? Had to sit at the back of the bus? Use different drinking fountains? Weren’t or are not allowed to vote?

Or do you mean serve in the military, marry people of the same sex, adopt children, wear the opposite sex attire and demand to use the opposite sex bathrooms?

And a whole lot more.

Sounds as though you want open homosexual behavior in society forced upon everyone. If it were not forced upon everyone, people would have the choice to NOT hire a homosexual for a day care teacher or church organist (or anything else), NOT rent a room to one in their house or apartment building, and NOT have to serve in the military with them. And be forced to give children to homosexuals for foster care and adoption. All these have and are happening as we speak. Sounds like a loss of freedom to me!

Sounds as though you want to take those choices away from people.


348 posted on 11/09/2010 7:23:53 AM PST by little jeremiah
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To: Hemingway's Ghost

Another point - so if a person has not committed a crime, everything else is okay?

Well, until the SCOTUS took away the states’ rights to make their own laws about homosexual acts (and many other rights over the years), homosexual acts were considered a crime in many places!

But no, homosexual activists including people like yourself stood by and lauded the SCOTUS decision in the name of “freedom”.


352 posted on 11/09/2010 7:26:25 AM PST by little jeremiah
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