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To: butterdezillion

I don’t care if Obama was a citizen of Indonesia under Indonesian law. Under US law, he remained a US citizen by birth, eligible for office.

“This principle was clearly stated by Attorney General Edwards Pierrepont in his letter of advice to the Secretary of State Hamilton Fish, in Steinkauler’s Case, 15 Op.Atty.Gen. 15. The facts were these: one Steinkauler, a Prussian subject by birth, emigrated to the United States in 1848, was naturalized in 1854, and in the following year had a son who was born in St. Louis. Four years later, Steinkauler returned to Germany, taking this child, and became domiciled at Weisbaden, where they continuously resided. When the son reached the age of twenty years, the German Government called upon him to report for military duty, and his father then invoked the intervention of the American Legation on the ground that his son was a native citizen of the United States. To an inquiry by our Minister, the father declined to give an assurance that the son would return to this country within a reasonable time. On reviewing the pertinent points in the case, including the Naturalization Treaty of 1868 with North Germany, 15 Stat. 615, the Attorney General reached the following conclusion:

“Young Steinkauler is a native-born American citizen. There is no law of the United States under which his father or any other person can deprive him of his birthright. He can return to America at the age of twenty-one, and in due time, if the people elect, he can become President of the United States; but the father, in accordance with the treaty and the laws, has renounced his American citizenship and his American allegiance and has acquired for himself and his son German citizenship and the rights which it carries and he must take the burdens as well as the advantages. The son being domiciled with the father and subject to him under the law during his minority, and receiving the German protection where he has acquired nationality and declining to give any assurance of ever returning to the United States and claiming his American nationality by residence here, I am of the opinion that he cannot rightly invoke the aid of the Government of the United States to relieve him from military duty in Germany during his minority. But I am of opinion that, when he reaches the age of twenty-one years, he can then elect whether he will return and take the nationality of his birth with its duties and privileges, or retain the nationality acquired by the act of his father.”

http://supreme.justia.com/us/307/325/case.html


542 posted on 10/15/2010 2:08:45 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (When the ass brays, don't reply...)
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To: Mr Rogers

The reason I responded to this issue at all was because you called somebody a nutcase for saying Obama is Indonesian. I pointed out that the only document we’ve got for Obama that hasn’t already been proven a forgery is a school registration document saying that Obama was an Indonesian citizen.

My question had nothing to do with Obama’s eligibility, but with why you would call somebody a nutcase because they believe the most credible document we actually have on Obama to this date.

Why do you call him a nutcase?


546 posted on 10/15/2010 2:19:25 PM PDT by butterdezillion (.)
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To: Mr Rogers
Young Steinkauler is a native-born American citizen....if the people elect, he can become President of the United States;

That certainly makes it sound like the U.S. Attorney General saw no distinction between "native-born" and "natural born," contrary to what some have assured us.

663 posted on 10/15/2010 8:18:32 PM PDT by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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