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First Rush, then Coulter, and Now Glenn Beck ... What’s Happening?
Life Site News ^ | NEW YORK, August 12, 2010 | Commentary by John-Henry Westen

Posted on 08/14/2010 4:09:18 AM PDT by GonzoII

Friday August 13, 2010


First Rush, then Coulter, and Now Glenn Beck ... What’s Happening?

Commentary by John-Henry Westen

NEW YORK, August 12, 2010 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Appearing on The O’Reilly Factor yesterday, famed conservative Fox News host Glenn Beck may have shocked many Americans by noting that he was not very concerned about homosexual 'marriage.'

O’Reilly asked Beck, “Do you believe that gay marriage is a threat to the country in any way?” Beck replied, “No, I don't,” adding sarcastically, “Will the gays come and get us?” 

After being pressed again on the question, Beck said, “I believe -- I believe what Thomas Jefferson said. If it neither breaks my leg nor picks my pocket, what difference is it to me?”  Showing his own surprise, O’Reilly remarked, “Okay, so you don't. That's interesting. Because I don't think a lot of people understand that about you.”

The Glenn Beck revelation comes on the heels of two other startling announcements by conservative celebrity pundits in the last couple of weeks.  Earlier this week it was announced that conservative pundit Ann Coulter would headline a fundraiser for the homosexual activist group within the Republican Party, GOProud.  And on July 29, although his position had been revealed before, talk radio host Rush Limbaugh again came out in favor of homosexual civil unions, while being opposed to same-sex ‘marriage.’

To be fair, it must be pointed out that Beck said he was looking at the ‘big picture’ and promoting faith, the answer to all such things.  Moreover, he added that he was okay with gay ‘marriage’ with a caveat.  “As long as we are not going down the road of Canada, where it now is a problem for churches to have free speech. If they can still say, hey, we oppose it,” he said.

But even to have suggested, as strongly as he did, that he was not opposed to gay ‘marriage’ is detrimental and demonstrates a ‘small picture’ approach.

Beck seems like a good guy. He’s thoughtful.  He’s right on many matters in the culture war.  For instance, when O’Reilly followed up and asked if Beck thought abortion threatened the United States, Beck replied dramatically in the affirmative.  “Abortion is killing, it’s killing, you’re killing someone,” he said.

So I thought it’d be worth it to calmly and persuasively share concerns with Beck on his approach.  He may not read my email, but I’m sure if enough pro-family folks were to get the message to him, he’d reconsider his outlook.

Here’s Beck’s email:

And here’s the gist of what I wrote:

Laws teach people what is right and wrong and thus homosexual acts will implicitly be given the stamp of approval where such legal recognition is granted.  The young will be given the false impression that this behavior is safe and acceptable, or even good.

Society has a duty to legally recognize and support married couples since they are, through procreation, the source for the continuation of human life and thus society itself.  Homosexual couples cannot properly procreate and thus have no such claim to societal recognition.

The question is not so much about marriage, but about homosexual acts.  The acts are harmful to the individuals who engage in them. They are harmful physically, emotionally and spiritually. 

With regard to persons engaged in such behavior or identifying with it, there must never be unjust discrimination.  All gay bashing, name-calling and the like should be condemned.  However, there must be discrimination on this front, a just discrimination, to preserve societal recognition for marriage between one man and one woman. 

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To: DJ MacWoW; Global2010

“why are you on the thread supporting and cheering those that support gay rights?”

Denial?


241 posted on 08/14/2010 8:14:23 AM PDT by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: Darksheare; Global2010

Coy is more like it. Obama does that. It’s a great liberal trick. Say one thing while doing another.


242 posted on 08/14/2010 8:15:43 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: DJ MacWoW; Global2010

Straight from the Ministry of Truth.


243 posted on 08/14/2010 8:16:21 AM PDT by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: Beowulf9

Remember what Jesus said to the woman who’d been married a bunch of times???? The FIRST husband is the only real husband......

I understand and agree with Jesus completely.....what’s the point of letting people marry and divorce over and over again? It loses meaning after a while....so it figures that gays would want to jump on the bandwagon as it’s going down in flamea...!

Rush has had at least 4 wives..........so are they really “wives” in the Biblical sense? At least the CHURCH has the sense to require an annulment......


244 posted on 08/14/2010 8:16:45 AM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Beowulf9

Remember what Jesus said to the woman who’d been married a bunch of times???? The FIRST husband is the only real husband......

I understand and agree with Jesus completely.....what’s the point of letting people marry and divorce over and over again? It loses meaning after a while....so it figures that gays would want to jump on the bandwagon as it’s going down in flamea...!

Rush has had at least 4 wives..........so are they really “wives” in the Biblical sense? At least the CHURCH has the sense to require an annulment......


245 posted on 08/14/2010 8:16:52 AM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: GonzoII
One of two things has happened: 1) Either those in question aren't all that conservative or Christian or 2) they are intimidated and too cowardly to stand up to homofascism.

Could it be being part of the beltway pundit class has the same effect it has serving in Washington DC? That there becomes a desire to be liked and to sellout to liberals?

Either way, those selling out need to realize they damaging their careers.

At least, Rush blasted Vaughn Walker's decision. It's hard to have any respect for the other two.

246 posted on 08/14/2010 8:17:06 AM PDT by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: Darksheare

THis is my last reply to you.

I live in a place where I do not ever see same sex people kissing/hand holding in public.

I saw it the other day on a tv show and it was the strangest oddest thing I ever saw and I laughed my rear off because it was so bizzarre.

I don’t live in the tv set I don’t live in the internet world even though I do spend allot of time at FR.

I rarely go around to other places on the internet, I don’t have a cell phone or blackberry but I do have a kick butt Electrolux Washer and Dryer.


247 posted on 08/14/2010 8:18:43 AM PDT by Global2010 (Congratulations to Dware for the FR Mussel Eating Fundraiser.)
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To: GonzoII
To be fair, it must be pointed out that Beck said he was looking at the ‘big picture’ and promoting faith, the answer to all such things. Moreover, he added that he was okay with gay ‘marriage’ with a caveat. “As long as we are not going down the road of Canada, where it now is a problem for churches to have free speech. If they can still say, hey, we oppose it,” he said.

If it is allowed, THERE IS NO OTHER ROAD TO GO DOWN. If it is the equivalent of real marriage, then it can be taught to kids under the premise they need to learn about what the different types of marriage are. If it is allowed, photographers and others with religious beliefs against homosexuality will be forced to provide their services at homosexual weddings or faces fines. ALL THAT IS ALREADY HAPPENING.

248 posted on 08/14/2010 8:20:23 AM PDT by Ol' Sparky (Liberal Republicans are the greater of two evils)
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To: Beowulf9

We don’t know if the multiple marriages the woman in the Bible had were after divorce or if she was a bigamist. Remember, the Bible does give guidelines where divorce is accepted (Deuteronomy, 24:1). We have no idea Rush’s circumstances regarding his divorces as we don’t most other people’s.


249 posted on 08/14/2010 8:20:42 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: Global2010
I am aware of gay couples in my community.
And honestly I don’t embrace their life but I do respect them as fellow humans.
What I do notice is some of them are very good hearted God loving individuals and others are just plain dumb assess without much depth and don’t have a clue but are here trying to function by only the grace of God.

This runs counter to your post.
Sounds like you're lying.

250 posted on 08/14/2010 8:20:54 AM PDT by Darksheare (I shook hands with Sheryl Crow and all I got was Typhus and a single sheet of toilet paper.)
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To: magritte

Too many minds are already made up. They can’t be bothered with facts.


251 posted on 08/14/2010 8:21:48 AM PDT by csmusaret (A government that can dictate how much water flows into a toilet is a powerful government indeed.)
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To: mnehring

Rush is clearly against judges going against the will of the people. Recently in Arizona, and CA. That is where he is. My point is he doesn’t see gay marriage as fake.


252 posted on 08/14/2010 8:23:38 AM PDT by BobS
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To: CitizenUSA

Well said.


253 posted on 08/14/2010 8:25:41 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Ol' Sparky

Ol’ Sparky: “If it is allowed, THERE IS NO OTHER ROAD TO GO DOWN.”

Exactly!


254 posted on 08/14/2010 8:26:36 AM PDT by CitizenUSA
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To: Global2010
I live in a place where I do not ever see same sex people kissing/hand holding in public.

You change stories fairly quickly. And cheer supporters of the gay agenda. You are not being honest.

255 posted on 08/14/2010 8:27:14 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (If Bam is the answer, the question was stupid.)
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To: BobS
My point is he doesn’t see gay marriage as fake.

He may not have commented the way you wanted, but he has come out against it many times. He has always focused on the legal aspects of the issue, that is just his mode. Because someone doesn't put something the way you want or give it the specific attention you want, doesn't mean they disagree.

256 posted on 08/14/2010 8:28:40 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: Ol' Sparky
Could it be being part of the beltway pundit class has the same effect it has serving in Washington DC? That there becomes a desire to be liked and to sellout to liberals?

*********************

It's very possible that this is at the very least, a part of the problem. However, as someone else posted, Rush has been married a number of times, and Coulter has never/not yet married, so there could be more than one issue here.

257 posted on 08/14/2010 8:29:53 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: GonzoII

Beck is picking his battles. His primary target is creeping socialism. He will leave the gay-marriage and Islamic battles to others, for now.


258 posted on 08/14/2010 8:32:43 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (When injustice becomes law, rebellion becomes duty)
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To: mnehring

How about Larry King? He has his 7th divorce coming because he slept around with his wife’s sister, who is 50!


259 posted on 08/14/2010 8:34:25 AM PDT by BobS
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To: JohnG45

Do you have core beliefs? Well good, stick to them!

Does it matter to you what Rush or Beck believes in? Are their beliefs more important to you than your own beliefs are to you?

Stand by your beliefs through thick and thin and you will sleep comfortably every night.


Ditto...;)


260 posted on 08/14/2010 8:40:57 AM PDT by chasio649 (amused)
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