Posted on 07/14/2010 12:49:09 PM PDT by Lorianne
LOL!
Minnesota Dairy Farm Likely Source Of E. Coli Outbreak In Raw Milk
In recent days, at least five residents of Minnesota have become ill with the E. coli infection.
Several victims, including a toddler who develop HUS (hemolytic uremic syndrome,) were hospitalized. HUS is a serious complications that may develop from E. coli food poisoning, and can cause life-long kidney damage to patients. This usually occurs in the elderly and the very young.
I guess the toddler didn't drink your raw milk long enough to build up the strong immune system before it got hemolytic uremic syndrome.
Sorry, gotta go. I'm supposed to be dead now and didn't know it.
And you have to look at why it was needed. Large groups of cattle huddled together in large feedlots. This was not so common prior to the turn of the 20th century.
That’s my vision of the currency of the future. Gold, lead and chickens.
When Veggies are Outlawed, only Outlaws will have Veggies!
Is your son looking for a wife? LOL!
You raised yourself a perfect son, IMHO. God Bless You!
Back in the day cows had a lot of diseases that could be transmitted through milk. Modern technology has cleaned them up. No one would add a cow to their milk herd without having her tested. Most states are now considered brucellosis free and I haven’t heard of even one cow with tuberculosis in my lifetime in my area but these diseases used to be common.
Pasteuration was vital when the process was discovered and has saved countless lives but modern technology makes it much safer to drink unpasturized milk than ever before.
You know, my mother and SIL both got Valley Fever from moving to the Southwest. My SIL was never the same, everytime she got sick her lung collapsed but that doesn’t stop people from moving to the SW.
People drive, it isn’t very safe. Some people live safe lives and get hit by lightening. You get to choose your poison and you get to choose the degree of danger that you are comfortable with but rarely is life safe.
Silly me.
I was raised mostly on pateurized milk, anytime my mother found a supply of raw milk we got it but with 6 kids living in town it was a rarity. I had a lot of digestive problems all my life and finally gave up milk and milk products completely and have been great. Just the way I feel makes the lack worth it.
About a year ago a young couple invited us over for homemade ice cream made with fresh milk. I ate it to be polite knowing I was going to pay dearly for it, I had no ill effects. So then I thought that I had overcome my problems and started eating dairy products...not for long.
“...but I feel very strongly about this issue.”
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I doubt that many here would disagree with you.
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List theses diseases and explain, in as much detail as possible, what it is in pasteurized milk that is responsible for the specific disease you cite.
but the dairies that specialize in raw products are considerably cleaner,
I see you've never spent any time on a farm.
The heating of milk destroys all the natural protections, such as the digestive enzymes that raw milk naturally has
Raw milk doesn't kill pathogens. However, the heating of milk does kill pathogens. Pasteurization does not inactivate xanthine oxidase, lactoperoxidase or lysozyme. Or, were you thinking of something else? As an aside, your body produces all the enzymes it requires.
the colostrum, which is a natural disease fighter
Pasteurization may reduce the amount of IgG in colostrum but it certainly doesn't destroy it. Or is there some other functional protein you're overly concerned about?
and converts the lactose to a higher glycemic level.
Huh? Are you laboring under the delusion that pasteurization turns lactose into beta lactose, which causes a higher GI? If so, you are incredibly confused. Regular pasteurization isn't even hot enough to kill all the organisms in milk, (that's why pasteurized milk will sour) much less cause alpha-sugars to convert to beta-sugars.
Even if high temperatures converted lactose to a beta-sugar, the body would treat it like it does cellulose and pass it though the gut without any ill effects. Your body has enzymes that can only digest alpha-sugars so any beta-sugars that might form will just get passed. Since your body can't digest beta-sugars why does the glycemic index matter?
Pasteurized milk has been proven to be a cause of insulin insensitivity through inflammation that is an unavoidable consequence of undigested lactose being converted to lactic acid, and it also is strongly implicated in colon and pancreatic cancer for the same reason.
You need to look for new sources for your information. This is crazy talk.
Ceasing the use of pasteurized dairy products is often all that is required to end type II diabetes, chronic lung congestion, bladder infection, and toenail fungus.
Pasteurization causes toenail fungus? More crazy talk.
There is no legitimate reason to pasteurize anything, and all foods that get pasteurized become unhealthy to eat.
Unfortunately for you, the science doesn't support any of the wild claims you've made here.
One of the very last countries in Europe to pass mandatory pasteurization laws was Scotland. Prior to the enactment of this legislation in 1983, the rate of milk borne Salmonellosis in Scotland was the highest in Europe. A year after pasteurization was made mandatory, Scotland's rate was one of the lowest. A study was then conducted on the remaining incidence of milk borne Salmonellosis over a three-year period following forced pasteurization. During that time there were only 15 outbreaks and all of them were in the rural farming communities and none in the general urban population. This was attributed to the fact that milk consumed in the remote farming districts was exempt from the pasteurization legislation that applied to the rest of the country.
Nope, no good reason to pasteurize. Samonella, listeria, E. coli, brucellosis etc. are all good for you and help you lead a long and healthy life.
Yeah, right. Then I guess you can show us evidence of all the consumers suffering from bacterial infection from consuming pasteurized milk. With all those unsanitary conditions in dairyland it should be easy.
It actually did cause diseases.
As I said in another post pasteurization saved lots of people. I also said that we can now test the cow for tuberculosis and brucellosis and many other diseases and as someone else said we have refrigeration. In its day pasteuration was vital, I would say it should now be a choice.
“You know, my mother and SIL both got Valley Fever from moving to the Southwest.”
Doctors used to say that Valley Fever was hypochondria. A friend became unemployable because doctors at Kaiser Hospital placed comments in his med file that he was delusional because he had Valley Fever.
Your Obama level cognition gives you that kind of bravado.
I bet you liked when they sent you to Self Esteem sessions, huh?
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We are transplanted city folks who drank raw milk and made our own butter with it for over 10 years. It was wonderful and no one was ever ill. You need to inspect the farm and know the dairymen. Most are super clean. They and their children and grandchildren drank it, as well. Selling legally out of the bulk tank was extra money for some farmers back when milk prices were awful, as they are now.
We also still eat farm eggs. They _are_ washed. We eat farm pork, beef and chicken every chance we get and often butcher it ourselves. Ditto with venison.
Most of what we are told is simply scare tactics. Back during the Depression, the Feds killed pigs and dumped milk to make them cost more on the excuse that they were *helping* the farmer get a better price. Then, the city folk were filled with propaganda about how the farmers “at least ate free” in order to stir up a farm/city animosity.
Do you think, in the event of of some sort of disaster or emergency, that the inspectors will be there or anyone will care? People all over the world subsist on their own milk and meat and have for thousands of years. The human race survived. Farmers understand cleanliness in producing the final product.
Frightening.
“Pasteurization causes toenail fungus? More crazy talk.”
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This was the only salvageable line out of your empty-headed post. Your inability to grasp that inflammation that is almost solely caused by consuming pasteurized dairy foods causes the lion’s share of people’s chronic misery makes you look like a simpleton.
Or is it deeper than that? - Is this deliberate deception?
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