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Raids are increasing on farms and private food-supply clubs
Grist ^ | 14 July 2010 | David Gumpert

Posted on 07/14/2010 12:49:09 PM PDT by Lorianne

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To: OneWingedShark

Foo producers? I had to grin at that ;) I love foo...


101 posted on 07/14/2010 2:40:29 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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To: Poincare
For spinach and leaf lettuce we use a product called Pro-San. Kills the bugs without altering the flavor. I don't worry too much about tomatoes. Irradiation would solve all of these problems. Don't know why we don't approve it. I suppose too many people believe it will make them glow in the dark.
102 posted on 07/14/2010 2:42:41 PM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: RipSawyer

You’re living very dangerously ... ain’t it great? I am poisoning my husband with supper tonight that is totally home grown/hunted/baked. Life on the edge, huh?


103 posted on 07/14/2010 2:43:59 PM PDT by JustaDumbBlonde (Don't wish doom on your enemies. Plan it.)
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To: rhoda_penmark
I told the person promoting the club that I think one would be taking one’s life into one’s hands if one chose to consume such unpasturized products.

I strongly believe that it is unsafe to consume unpasteurized milk products.

I believe just as strongly that it is the right of a free people to eat whatever they like, regardless of the results. If the government has a right to tell you not to eat raw milk, what about saturated fats? What about HFCS? Artificial sweeteners? The list is endless.

Either we possess our own bodies or we do not. If we don't, there is literally no end to what the government can and will do to "for" us.

104 posted on 07/14/2010 2:45:52 PM PDT by mountainbunny (Mitt Romney: Just where does his lying mouth stop and his awesome hair begin?)
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To: JustaDumbBlonde

Yeah, it’s a procedure/function name that many CS majors use in examples.

{Though I really meant to type ‘food.’}


105 posted on 07/14/2010 2:49:51 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: IYAS9YAS
Healthy implies the lack of the bacteria you cited being present in these cattle.

And how do you tell the animal is free from these bacteria? Cows can carry many pathogens without any outward appearance of illness.

95% of all bulk milk tanks test positive for coxiella burnetii. 90% of dairy herds have at least one infected cow. You'd have to test each batch (bucket) of milk to be certain there were no pathogens present. Unless you were testing grandma's milk every time, you'd have no idea which bugs were present and which ones weren't.

106 posted on 07/14/2010 2:54:21 PM PDT by Mase (Save me from the people who would save me from myself!)
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To: Lorianne

Illegal contraband
107 posted on 07/14/2010 2:54:42 PM PDT by MaxMax (Conservatism isn't a party)
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To: mountainbunny
0bamaCare is one of the most blatant examples of that. It promotes collective rights and denies individual rights. Everyone's actions are viewed through the lens of "You must benefit the state. Actions that oppose or lessen state power will be punished."

Whose right is health care? Do you think it's yours?

108 posted on 07/14/2010 2:54:44 PM PDT by TigersEye (Greenhouse Theory is false. Totally debunked. "GH gases" is a non-sequitur.)
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To: aruanan
One little drop of 33% food grade H2O2 per gallon of milk would take care of all the mentioned pathogens and not alter the milk at all. Also don't underestimate the value of live cells in our diet. There are things about cellular energy we do not yet know.
109 posted on 07/14/2010 2:58:45 PM PDT by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: rhoda_penmark; RobRoy

RR, you got your first victim...

Rhoda, the little “/s” denotes SARCASM


110 posted on 07/14/2010 2:59:50 PM PDT by SZonian (We began as a REPUBLIC, a nation of laws. We became a DEMOCRACY, majority rules. Next step is?)
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To: norraad
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111 posted on 07/14/2010 3:01:16 PM PDT by dynachrome (Barack Hussein Obama yunikku khinaaziir!)
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To: Zippo44

“What happened to the kulaks in the ‘20s?”

http://www.amazon.com/Harvest-Sorrow-Soviet-Collectivization-Terror-Famine/dp/0195051807/ref=sr_1_4?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1279144694&sr=1-4


112 posted on 07/14/2010 3:03:16 PM PDT by dynachrome (Barack Hussein Obama yunikku khinaaziir!)
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To: TruthConquers

Kulak (people who had assets) farmers hoarded food from the good soviets, so maximum leader Stalin had to root out that evil. Only 25 million or so starved or were executed.

http://www.amazon.com/Harvest-Sorrow-Soviet-Collectivization-Terror-Famine/dp/0195051807/ref=sr_1_4?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1279144694&sr=1-4


113 posted on 07/14/2010 3:09:12 PM PDT by dynachrome (Barack Hussein Obama yunikku khinaaziir!)
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To: Vigilanteman

Pasteurization was started in the first couple of decades of the last century. My grandfather was a microbiologist who worked with Emil Berliner [the man who invented the Victrola flat record] to get pasteurization laws in place. By the way, granddad died from TB (as did my father) from being infected through his research. There weren’t many test for the disease in cattle or people back then. I don’t know what it’s like today.

TB is coming back in hard-to-treat forms, but it is no way as wide spread [yet] as it was at the beginning of the last century. Kids died from all sorts of diseases then that are largely forgotten now thanks to modern science and public-health efforts: TB, typhoid, typhus, diphtheria, rheumatic fever, blood poisoning, polio and so on.

When we had cows, I remember straining the milk through cloth to filter out the small pieces of cow shit and other dirt. I don’t know what they do nowadays in large dairies. I guess it’s all mechanized.


114 posted on 07/14/2010 3:20:08 PM PDT by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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To: griswold3
all this over raw milk?

Pennsylvania is having similar issues.

115 posted on 07/14/2010 3:21:38 PM PDT by Gondring (Paul Revere would have been flamed as a naysayer troll and told to go back to Boston.)
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To: editor-surveyor

It’s been known for a while that some problems, like pneumonia, respond better to penicillin (a natural product) than to raw food.

And, the trade value of medicine over other things can’t be ignored. You might not use it yourself, but someone else might trade a brick of .22 ammo for nine amoxicillin pills.


116 posted on 07/14/2010 3:25:50 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: mountainbunny; rhoda_penmark

“I strongly believe that it is unsafe to consume unpasteurized milk products.”

For six thousand years people drank raw milk with nothing but beneficial effects, then along comes pasteurization and makes the milk unfit for consumption, causing inflammation due to its undigestability, and all the fast killing diseases that come with it, and you think natural milk is unsafe?

Did you vote for O?


117 posted on 07/14/2010 3:32:14 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Obamacare is America's kristallnacht !!)
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To: The Comedian

Invaders and drug traffickers shoot back. Americans don’t. >>>>>

Police/Feds much rather write traffic tickets or do these raw food raids than go after the real crooks and drug pushers out there


118 posted on 07/14/2010 3:34:23 PM PDT by dennisw (History does not long entrust the care of freedom to the weak or the timid - Gen Eisenhower)
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To: TigersEye
0bamaCare is one of the most blatant examples of that. It promotes collective rights and denies individual rights. Everyone's actions are viewed through the lens of "You must benefit the state. Actions that oppose or lessen state power will be punished."

Thank you for the link.

I agree completely. We have to be careful to watch so-called conservatives who have our "best interests at heart" with regards to the food chain, too.

I was outraged in 2005 when Rick Santorum pushed a bill (iirc, it was called PAWS) which was approved of by the US Humane Society (the animal rights organization, not your local Humane Society) and sponsored by Dick Durbin (D) & Arlen Spector (eventual D), which would have placed the burden of fees and "compliance expenses", plus invasive home inspections and record keeping on people who raise pets (and probably small farmers). He tried to pass animal rights-related legislation at least 3 times.

Thankfully, it failed every time, as it would have federalized small breeders would have created a paperwork and record keeping nightmare. Who would want to breed animals, even a few, if it gave the federal government the right to come into your home?

His attempts had everything to do with animal "rights" and nothing to do with animal welfare. This from a so-called "conservative" who thinks he knows better than the rest of us how to do things.

119 posted on 07/14/2010 3:41:43 PM PDT by mountainbunny (Mitt Romney: Just where does his lying mouth stop and his awesome hair begin?)
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To: Zippo44

They died. (by the thousands)


120 posted on 07/14/2010 3:46:57 PM PDT by NathanR (,)
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