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To: Danae; All

So if this is correct, and it has been found, then Physicists will be able to fully describe creation mathematically.

It would be nice if this were true, but, alas, even if/once the Higgs boson is discovered, we will remain far from being able to mathematically describe creation. Discovery of the Higgs would confirm the correctness of the Standard Model, but the Standared Model has a very specific, limited range of applicability. It ceases to provide reliable predictive capability (for known reasons) at a certain magnitude of energy of interaction below the so-called Planck scale, which is the interaction scale at which quantum mechanical corrections to general relativity become important (the Planck scale is many orders of magnitude larger than the electroweak symmetry breaking scale). Moreover, there are some 17 parameters in the Standard Model, the values of which must be specified "by hand," in order to calculate answers to the questions we ask, such as to figure out what are called "scattering amplitudes." These 17 parameter values will not be explained by the discovery of the Higgs. (There is some hope that they may be explained within String Theory.)

Furthermore, the Standard Model, strictly defined, doesn't describe the physics of quarks and gluons: that physics is described by a different theory (called quantum chromodynamics), and various combinations of both the Standard Model and QCD (such theories are called "grand unified theories") have been worked out to account for the physics of the known particles, with the exception of gravitation. Properly melding together gravitation and quantum mechanics remains today an unsolved problem (although String Theory is a strong candidate approach), and the discovery of the Higgs, sadly, won't solve this problem.

66 posted on 07/12/2010 7:14:58 PM PDT by E8crossE8
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To: E8crossE8

Wow, what are you a rocket scientist or sumptin? Good reply.


67 posted on 07/12/2010 7:46:05 PM PDT by wxgesr (I want to be the first person to surf on another planet.)
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To: E8crossE8

//the discovery of the Higgs, sadly, won’t solve this problem//

Why is that a sad thing?


71 posted on 07/12/2010 8:12:15 PM PDT by valkyry1
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To: E8crossE8

I don’t disagree with you. Clearly you understand the mathematics far better than I do.

The difference may just lay in the difference between seeing a propeller spin so fast you can’t see the blades, and taking a snapshot of it, because then you can perceive an instant of time that allows you to perceive reality... which is reality more than meets the eye.

Higgs is that snapshot I believe.


80 posted on 07/12/2010 10:27:55 PM PDT by Danae (If Liberals were only moderately insane, they would be tollerable. Alas, such is not the case.)
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