What you leave out is that part of the discussion that pertained to citizen, not NBC & Madison also further went on to say that “
Mr. Smith founds his claims upon his birthright; his ancestors were among the first settlers of that colony...if he were not a minor, he became bound, by his own act, ... if he was a minor, his consent was involved in the decision of that society to which he belonged by the ties of nature.”
Smith was making his claim that he was a citizen by mere fact of jus soli birthright, however Madison goes on to dispel that claim. Madison further explains farther into his speech on the floor that Smith being a minor at the time of the Declaration of Independence; Smith's citizenship came through his father(ties of nature). The act of Smith's father taking an oath to become a citizen of the new society automatically gave consent for his children by becoming himself a member of the new society.
IOW, according to Madison, birth on soil did NOT automatically make one a citizen, the parents must have been citizens for the child to become one. BWHAHAHAHA....
ROFL, that lame argument again where you parse & edit only the part of Madison’s words to hide the part wherein he tells why Smith was a citizen by birth on the soil.
What you leave out is that part of the discussion that pertained to citizen, not NBC & Madison also further went on to say that “
Mr. Smith founds his claims upon his birthright; his ancestors were among the first settlers of that colony...if he were not a minor, he became bound, by his own act, ... if he was a minor, his consent was involved in the decision of that society to which he belonged by the ties of nature.”
Smith was making his claim that he was a citizen by mere fact of jus soli birthright, however Madison goes on to dispel that claim. Madison further explains farther into his speech on the floor that Smith being a minor at the time of the Declaration of Independence; Smith’s citizenship came through his father(ties of nature). The act of Smith’s father taking an oath to become a citizen of the new society automatically gave consent for his children by becoming himself a member of the new society.
IOW, according to Madison, birth on soil did NOT automatically make one a citizen, the parents must have been citizens for the child to become one. BWHAHAHAHA....
Readers can then make up their own minds about its proper context.
The judges or justices that have stated an opinion on Barack Obama’s eligibility as a natural born citizen or not have referenced either the 14th Amendment or the Supreme Court decisions deriving from the 14th Amendment such as US v Wong Kim Ark from 1898.
There’s just no way around those opening 14th Amendment words:
“ALL PERSONS BORN...”
“IOW, according to Madison, birth on soil did NOT automatically make one a citizen, the parents must have been citizens for the child to become one. BWHAHAHAHA.... “
Actually, NO ONE is claiming birth in a country automatically makes one a citizen, since the children of diplomats and invading armies have always been excepted - until WKA.
HOWEVER, Madison makes it clear that birth in a country is the clearest determinant, and being raised in that society makes it natural that one is a citizen.
Oh - and PLEASE try to distinguish between NBC and citizen! ANYONE born on American soil can claim US citizenship. I don’t like it, but that is the way it is. I didn’t think even the birthers denied that Obama’s birth on US Soil makes him a US citizen...
Now, what do you think - if you can think - Madison would say about a child born of an American citizen & a sperm donor foreigner, raised in America, with no one doubting his American citizenship? American passport, American schools, lived and worked here his entire adult life.
Citizen by birth, or not?
In any case, the law is pretty well settled. Prior to 2008, no one doubted that someone born in America and an American by birth could run for President. This is a manufactured issue by weenies who want to rewrite the Constitution, using ONE SENTENCE in a French book to do so.
Which is why birthers LOSE every time. Not once. Not twice. EVERY time.
I suspect that is what drives the venom - losing every time hurts, doesn’t it? But you’ll push men like Lakin to put their careers on the line for total drivel. You will insult men like Rush Limbaugh, and call women like Coulter and Malkin phonies - all because you cannot handle the truth.