Posted on 06/06/2010 9:03:13 AM PDT by jodiluvshoes
Most Americans are outraged at Helen Thomas' culturally and ethnically based anti-semitic biases, said with seemingly complete sobriety and coherence this past week to a rolling video camera. But if Americans are honest, they would have to admit that the current administration's policies, positions, and preferences towards Israel come scarily close to agreement with the disgraced columnist for Hearst newspapers.
This is particularly so in recent weeks.
It is one thing for a journalist with ethnic origins from the middle east to advocate over and over again across many administrations for the elimination of the Israeli state. It is another matter altogether for the first President in perhaps two generations to make the case that Israel should be left defenseless, so as to allow her enemies eliminate her.
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Ummmm . . yeah, still waiting for the MSM outrage over Helen
Most Americans are UNWARE OF Helen Thomas' culturally and ethnically based anti-semitic biases, said with seemingly complete sobriety and coherence this past week to a rolling video camera DUE TO MEDIA BLACKOUT/COVER-UP OF OBAMA AND HIS MEDIA.
And, dear old gas bag Helen and Hearst News, do you have any suggestions for the Irish, or Mexicans or Blacks in America. Speak up Helen and Hearst News.
“Most Americans are UNWARE OF Helen Thomas’ culturally and ethnically based anti-semitic biases, said with seemingly complete sobriety and coherence this past week to a rolling video camera DUE TO MEDIA BLACKOUT/COVER-UP OF OBAMA AND HIS MEDIA. “
Compare to Allen just saying “Meccaca” or the thousands of other incidents with days on end no stop reporting of real or imagined slights that the media plays up when the perpetrator is disliked [Read Republican, etc] and the victim is favored.
And if that doesn’t prove to anyone objective that its a lie that Jews control the media in any way that supports Jewish and Israeli interests it is because their bias in as entrenched as Thomas’.
It sure would be nice to have a president say “Today we are cancelling Ms. Thomas’ press pass. Nobody reads her tripe and couldn’t understand it if they did. It’s time to put a reporter in that chair.”
Strange how we are called racist when we want to send the Mexicans back to Mexico because they are illegal, but this old bag is alright she can say what she wants to say..Is it because she shares a Birthday cupcake with Obama on their birthday or because they share the same attitude about the Jews I’ll bet hhis old hag wet her pants when she found out the Muslim stole our country....Send this old bat back Lebanese where she belongs better still send her to Palestine so she can become a bomber..Maybe they would attach a bomb to her rear ans blow her to kingdom come..
Helen Thomas says Jews should leave Israel and go back to Poland and Germany
And imagine what would happen if she had said that all the Palestinians should go back to Jordan or Meccaland where they belong.... hmmmmm? She would be out on her keyster so fast it would make the broom spin.
BOOK REVIEW: WHY ARE JEWS LIBERALS?
A Book Review By DICK MORRIS of Why Are Jews Liberals? By Norman Podhoretz
Published on DickMorris.com on June 5, 2010
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It is the question that sooner or later baffles every political pundit, consultant, expert, or observer. Why do American Jews persist in their adoration of the Democratic Party? Why, like an abused spouse, do they tolerate Israel-bashing, support for the Palestinians and Democratic softness on terrorism and still return for more? As the richest demographic group in our population, why do they still vote for Obama and donate money to him when he specifically proposes to raise the taxes on those making more than $200,000 per year?
Why do they let liberal politicians embrace the likes of Louis Farrakhan and Rev. Jeremiah Wright and still support them on Election Day?
I don´t have an answer and have never heard a satisfactory one from any leader of an American Jewish or pro-Israeli organization.
But Norman Podhoretz does and he explains his ideas in his brilliant book Why Are Jews Liberals?
American Jews, Podhoretz explains, grew up in liberal homes heavily influenced by the ideology they inherited from their Eastern European ancestors. There, in Russia and Germany, you either followed the Kaiser´s or the Czar´s line or were a Communist. Reacting to their exclusion and the pogroms that harassed them, these ghetto Jews readily embraced Marxism. Indeed, Marx was, himself, born a Jew and the majority of the first Bolshevik Politburo in 1917 were Jews. When Hitler railed against Jews and Communists, he often felt no need to distinguish between the two.
In the New World, communism morphed into socialism in the early years of the twentieth century when Eugene V. Debs won a million votes (almost 10%) on the Socialist Party ticket for President. Finally, under the more benign influence of FDR and the New Deal, this leftist impulse settled into the cozy niche of liberalism where it has remained ever since.
Zionism, also, closely identified itself with socialism and the Labor Party of Golda Meier and David Ben Gurion, which dominated Israel´s early years, pushed its ideological agenda. Kibbutzim were formed with communal living as a Fabian or utopian socialism took root in the holy land. So leftist were the early Israelis that Russia recognized the state of Israel even before the United States did in the hopes that it could become a socialist ally. The political majority which underscored this leftist bent was based on Jews descended from the ghettos of Europe — Ashkenazi Jews.
In the U.S. Jews stayed in the liberal camp not just out of conviction but also from fear of the Christian right. When fundamentalism reared its head in American politics, they feared that anti-Semitism would not be far behind. And, as the anti-communism of the McCarthy era targeted the Jewish intellectual establishment, their dependence on Democrats only increased.
It came as a shock to America´s Jews that first Nixon, then Reagan, and finally Bush-43 emerged as Israel´s strongest supporters. (The tepid backing Bush-41 gave the Jewish state was more in line with what they expected from the GOP). And it came as a total shock when the religious right became Israel´s strongest backer based on its biblical conviction that God had promised the Holy Land to the Jewish people.
But, by then, religion and even Israel had weakened their holds on American Jewish hearts. They attended religious services less than half as frequently as establishment Protestants and only one-third as often as Catholics or Evangelicals. Most Jews, Podhoretz notes, attended synagogue “four times a year” on the high holy days.
Meanwhile, in Israel, the socialist Ashkenazi-based Labor Party (led by Shimon Peres) fell to the campaigns of Menachem Begin and Bibi Netanyahu. Both had as their base the Sephardic Jews who came, not from Europe, but from Africa or the Middle East. They had no heritage of socialism, much less Marxism and had a healthy disrespect for their long term neighbors in the Arab world. To American Jews, they looked racist and embarrassed them in front of their liberal friends. When Obama accuses Netanyahu of “intransigence”, he echoes what liberal Jews themselves often think of the Israeli right-wing.
But Podhoretz´ book, written before Obama manifested such an anti-Israel bent, leaves unanswered the question of whether the pro-Palestinian bias of the current administration, not to mention its war on prosperity, will drive Jews away from their liberal moorings. The answer probably lies more with events than within Jewish thinking. As it becomes apparent that Israel faces a holocaust-like threat from Iranian nuclear weapons and the disastrous results of Obama´s socialist project become evident, Jews will likely gradually wean themselves away from the liberal Democratic Party. As it becomes more anti-Israel and anti-wealth, the Party will leave the Jews before the Jews realize it has left and themselves leave the party.
Norman Podhoretz, former editor of Commentary Magazine, and long a leading voice of the neo-con movement, has diagnosed the Jewish addiction to liberalism and helped us to understand why it still dominates their thinking. He has solved the mystery. Now let’s see what we conservatives and Republican Jews can do with the knowledge he has given us.
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I have a completely different take on why Jews in the United States are Liberals.
And that’s not all Jews. Practicing (ie Orthodox, Modern Orthodox) Jews are not Liberals. And from that fact you find the clue.
In the practice of Judaism by necessity you are somewhat separate from the mainstream. For example, you can’t hang out at McDonalds- its not Kosher. You can’t go to the big party or ball game on Friday night. You know those things and you adjust.
On the other hand, non practicing Jews want to participate totally in the American way.
This could be expanded to a PhD thesis, but in short:
I believe that they find the Liberal milieu more accepting. Religion isn’t so much an issue as it would be in a Conservative environment where by nature Religion- Christianity to be precise- is predominant in the everyday surroundings and in all events.
These same idiots in the MSM and “The Regime” who turn a blind eye to Helen Thomames saying Jews in Isreal should return to Poland and Germany would be outraged if,ooohh let’s say a state decided to check the immigration status of certain people in this country, and reported the ones here illegally to ICE. Yeah, I’d bet you’d have places lake L.A. and San Francisco staging phoney BOYCOTTS and Eric Holder condemning that state. Yeah just imagine if that were the case.
You would think Jews no matter practicing or non practicing would commiserate with Christians the world over because both religions are equally ridiculed mercilessly.
You have to understand that until recent decades, and even today in other parts of the World, Jews had real reason to fear Christian intentions.
Philo-Semitic Christians may not accept that German and other murderer in the Holocaust, for example, were Christians, but Jews saw people who wore crosses, who celebrated Christmas and Easter, who thought of themselves as Christians. And Jews saw them as Christians too.
There is a 2000 year history that is not so easily forgotten.
Send the old hag back to Lebanon to live with her ancestors first!
If there is one thing history teaches it is that we should learn from our mistakes.
It may not be possible to forget the past bur perhaps it is possible to move on without carrying a grudge. I know that is easier said than done.
But perhaps now is the time to think of where we, that is Christians and Jews, have common ground and can mutually console, respect and support each other.
Can’t argue with you but back to the original question.
I explained the big mystery of why the majority of secular Jews are Liberals.
Its because Liberalism- at least the Liberalism as seen in the 20th Century- was a more friendly atmosphere for Jews. That can’t be denied.
The hope is that in the 21st Century as Liberalism has turned into radicalism, when Jews find it more and more inhospitable, they will leave.
Social issues for Jews should not matter to them if they are not around to enjoy or partake in them.
If their existence is threatened and liberals are wont to protect them which is the case especially these days, Jewish survival should be their first priority.
Jews face another Holocaust now and it is at the hands of liberals that will not stop or prevent it.
And if that is the case, Jews should never vote for a liberal ever again.
Amen. George Allen was a great candidate totally and successfully character assassinated by the Washington Post.
I'm still waiting for the ADL's outrage over here comments.
Can you imagine the outrage of a conservative had made the comments she made?
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