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1 posted on 06/02/2010 12:05:35 PM PDT by i88schwartz
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Islamists hate them because they are Jewish and because they believe they took their land.

Liberals (American and otherwise) hate them because they have the audacity defend themselves and refuse to bow to pressure to surrender to invading hoards. The anti-Christian crowd also hates them because Christians support them.

Only a liberal could see Christianity and Judaism as evil, and Islam as peaceful.

SnakeDoc


81 posted on 06/02/2010 12:36:02 PM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("Shut it down" ... 00:00:03 ... 00:00:02 ... 00:00:01 ... 00:00:00.)
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Luk 6:22 Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake.
84 posted on 06/02/2010 12:38:06 PM PDT by shield (A wise man's heart is at his RIGHT hand;but a fool's heart at his LEFT. Ecc 10:2)
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To: i88schwartz
   Psalm Chapter 2

 1 Why do the nations rage, And the people plot a vain thing?

 2 The kings of the earth set themselves, And the rulers take counsel
   together, Against the Lord and against His Anointed, saying,

 3 "Let us break Their bonds in pieces And cast away Their cords from
   us."

 4 He who sits in the heavens shall laugh; The Lord shall hold them in
   derision.

 5 Then He shall speak to them in His wrath, And distress them in His
   deep displeasure:

 6 "Yet I have set My King On My holy hill of Zion."

 7 "I will declare the decree: The Lord has said to Me, 'You are My Son,
   Today I have begotten You.

 8 Ask of Me, and I will give You The nations for Your inheritance, And
   the ends of the earth for Your possession.

 9 You shall break them with a rod of iron; You shall dash them to pieces
   like a potter's vessel.' "

10 Now therefore, be wise, O kings; Be instructed, you judges of the earth.

11 Serve the Lord with fear, And rejoice with trembling.

12 Kiss the Son, lest He be angry, And you perish in the way, When His
   wrath is kindled but a little. Blessed are all those who put their
   trust in Him.

85 posted on 06/02/2010 12:38:10 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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This is a battle of propaganda.
Many years ago, the Palestinians setup hotline phones to every major media outlet in Europe and then “created” and event, then started sending faxes. Actually they run things much like Clinton does.

They also promote travel tours for the media/celebs to Israel to see what its like. Then all they show them is Gaza and the West Bank.

Israel did much of this before ‘48 to get UN support but frankly they have too few people to support a major effort and many of them are tired of war.

The Palestinians however have lots of time on their hands when they are not building bombs or digging tunnels.


87 posted on 06/02/2010 12:38:51 PM PDT by Zathras
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Re: Serious Question: Why do so many people hate Israel??

Beats me, slick. I'm still racking my brain as to why anyone... outside an Anti-Semite, a communist, a socialist or an anti-American terrorist-loving schmuck would every join today's Democrat Party?

And, believe it or not, the vast majority of Jewish folk in this country... are Obama voting Democrats--

88 posted on 06/02/2010 12:40:44 PM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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“Serious Question: Why do so many people hate Israel??” The more pressing question is this: “Why do so many people kiss Islam’s ass while condemning Christians and Jews?” I guess the press really loves all those stories about the “religion of peace...” Does the MSM recall the loving Muslims who beheaded journalist Daniel Pearl, how these jovial creatures of Islam celebrated the devastating events of 9/11. I will embrace Israel and I abhor the vicious behavior and treacherous acts committed by Muslims! I will celebrate the massacre of the Taliban and its ilk. Americans need to wake up and realize that this cult-like belief called Islam and its culture want to either convert or kill all of us so called non-believers. People can believe what they want and practice Christianity, Judaism, Islam, Scientology, Taoism, Hinduism, Buddhism, worship rocks or animals or be an atheist. The foundation of this country begins with the Declaration of Independence and United States Constitution, both flying in the face of Islam. Our laws guarantee us Freedom of Religion, Freedom of Speech, and Freedom of the Press.


90 posted on 06/02/2010 12:41:57 PM PDT by Ranger Warrior
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To: i88schwartz
This is what I just posted on another thread... :-)

I know that there are some who don't believe what God says, but I'll take God at his Word when He says ...

Jeremiah 31:36-37

36 "If those ordinances depart From before Me, says the Lord, Then the
seed of Israel shall also cease From being a nation before Me forever."

37 Thus says the Lord: "If heaven above can be measured, And the
foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all
the seed of Israel For all that they have done, says the Lord.



This is what God says about Israel...

Ezekiel 37:21-28

21 Then say to them, ‘Thus says the Lord God: “Surely I will take the
children of Israel from among the nations, wherever they have gone, and
will gather them from every side and bring them into their own land;

22 and I will make them one nation in the land, on the mountains of
Israel; and one king shall be king over them all; they shall no longer
be two nations, nor shall they ever be divided into two kingdoms again.

23 They shall not defile themselves anymore with their idols, nor with
their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions; but I
will deliver them from all their dwelling places in which they have
sinned, and will cleanse them. Then they shall be My people, and I will
be their God.

24 “David My servant shall be king over them, and they shall all have
one shepherd; they shall also walk in My judgments and observe My
statutes, and do them.

25 Then they shall dwell in the land that I have given to Jacob My
servant, where your fathers dwelt; and they shall dwell there, they,
their children, and their children’s children, forever; and My servant
David shall be their prince forever.

26 Moreover I will make a covenant of peace with them, and it shall be
an everlasting covenant with them; I will establish them and multiply
them, and I will set My sanctuary in their midst forevermore.

27 My tabernacle also shall be with them; indeed I will be their God,
and they shall be My people.

28 The nations also will know that I, the Lord, sanctify Israel, when
My sanctuary is in their midst forevermore.” ‘ “



Jeremiah 31:31-37

31 “Behold, the days are coming, says the Lord, when I will make a new
covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah—

32 not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the
day that I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt,
My covenant which they broke, though I was a husband to them, says the
Lord.

33 But this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel
after those days, says the Lord: I will put My law in their minds, and
write it on their hearts; and I will be their God, and they shall be My
people.

34 No more shall every man teach his neighbor, and every man his
brother, saying, ‘Know the Lord,’ for they all shall know Me, from the
least of them to the greatest of them, says the Lord. For I will
forgive their iniquity, and their sin I will remember no more.”

35 Thus says the Lord, Who gives the sun for a light by day, The
ordinances of the moon and the stars for a light by night, Who disturbs
the sea, And its waves roar (The Lord of hosts is His name):

36 “If those ordinances depart From before Me, says the Lord, Then the
seed of Israel shall also cease From being a nation before Me forever.”

37 Thus says the Lord: “If heaven above can be measured, And the
foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all
the seed of Israel For all that they have done, says the Lord.



Zechariah 14:2-21

2 For I will gather all the nations to battle against Jerusalem; The
city shall be taken, The houses rifled, And the women ravished. Half of
the city shall go into captivity, But the remnant of the people shall
not be cut off from the city.

3 Then the Lord will go forth And fight against those nations, As He
fights in the day of battle.

4 And in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, Which
faces Jerusalem on the east. And the Mount of Olives shall be split in
two, From east to west, Making a very large valley; Half of the
mountain shall move toward the north And half of it toward the south.

5 Then you shall flee through My mountain valley, For the mountain
valley shall reach to Azal. Yes, you shall flee As you fled from the
earthquake In the days of Uzziah king of Judah. Thus the Lord my God
will come, And all the saints with You.*

6 It shall come to pass in that day That there will be no light; The
lights will diminish.

7 It shall be one day Which is known to the Lord— Neither day nor
night. But at evening time it shall happen That it will be light.

8 And in that day it shall be That living waters shall flow from
Jerusalem, Half of them toward the eastern sea And half of them toward
the western sea; In both summer and winter it shall occur.

9 And the Lord shall be King over all the earth. In that day it shall
be— “The Lord is one,”* And His name one.

10 All the land shall be turned into a plain from Geba to Rimmon south
of Jerusalem. Jerusalem* shall be raised up and inhabited in her place
from Benjamin’s Gate to the place of the First Gate and the Corner
Gate, and from the Tower of Hananeel to the king’s winepresses.

11 The people shall dwell in it; And no longer shall there be utter
destruction, But Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited.

12 And this shall be the plague with which the Lord will strike all the
people who fought against Jerusalem: Their flesh shall dissolve while
they stand on their feet, Their eyes shall dissolve in their sockets,
And their tongues shall dissolve in their mouths.

13 It shall come to pass in that day That a great panic from the Lord
will be among them. Everyone will seize the hand of his neighbor, And
raise his hand against his neighbor’s hand;

14 Judah also will fight at Jerusalem. And the wealth of all the
surrounding nations Shall be gathered together: Gold, silver, and
apparel in great abundance.

15 Such also shall be the plague On the horse and the mule, On the
camel and the donkey, And on all the cattle that will be in those
camps. So shall this plague be.

16 And it shall come to pass that everyone who is left of all the
nations which came against Jerusalem shall go up from year to year to
worship the King, the Lord of hosts, and to keep the Feast of
Tabernacles.

17 And it shall be that whichever of the families of the earth do not
come up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, on them
there will be no rain.

18 If the family of Egypt will not come up and enter in, they shall
have no rain; they shall receive the plague with which the Lord strikes
the nations who do not come up to keep the Feast of Tabernacles.

19 This shall be the punishment of Egypt and the punishment of all the
nations that do not come up to keep the Feast of Tabernacles.

20 In that day “HOLINESS TO THE LORD” shall be engraved on the bells of
the horses. The pots in the Lord’s house shall be like the bowls before
the altar.

21 Yes, every pot in Jerusalem and Judah shall be holiness to the Lord
of hosts. Everyone who sacrifices shall come and take them and cook in
them. In that day there shall no longer be a Canaanite in the house of
the Lord of hosts.*

94 posted on 06/02/2010 12:43:34 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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I believe that many people are scared senseless by the muslims. The believe that by sacrificing Jews they mave save themselves. Others just inherited the views of their European ancestors.


95 posted on 06/02/2010 12:43:36 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter Of Fact, Not A Matter Of Opinion)
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even more curious... why do so many Jews vote DEMOCRAP

I almost find it hard to feel sorry for them this time around- they helped elect this rat bastard.


97 posted on 06/02/2010 12:44:23 PM PDT by Mr. K (This administration IS WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY!!!!!)
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Confusion.


103 posted on 06/02/2010 12:45:34 PM PDT by bvw
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Years ago, until the mid-1960’s or so, the “left”, i.e., the intellectual “elite”, “liberal opinon”, etc. rather liked Israel. Part of this was because they were Jews, and Jews were in favor in those circles at the time. The bigger reason probably was because Israel was an opensly socialist (though democratic) state and something of an aspirational model for much of the US and European labor-union left. Vacationing on a kibbutz was in. Israel was also non-aligned. The US even refused to sell arms to Israel until about 1968, while arming Israels enemies Jordan and Saudi Arabia.

What changed ?

- The Soviets project of making the Arab states their allies eventually bore fruit, and countries like Egypt, Syria, Libya, Iraq entered the Soviet sphere. So Israel became an enemy of the Soviets and their powerful cheering section in the international left.

- The Palestinians (the PLO but other factions too) actively joined the “new left” in the 1960’s and became part of the same interrelated 1960’s revolutionary movements and propaganda that (also manipulated and encouraged by the Soviets) included gangs like the German Red Army Faction, Italian Red Brigades, the IRA, even the Japanese Red Army, among plenty of others. In the 1970’s the Japanese staged an attack in Tel Aviv and the Germans carried out the famous El Al hijacking that ended in Entebbe, besides actively helping various Palestinian gangs and receiving the help of countries like Iraq and Libya. The fan base behind all these extremists were of the same mind, and unlike the extremists these “68ers” for the most part took part in the “long march through the institutions” that placed them in most positions of cultural influence in the West. They took their political attitudes from their youth with them.

- The switch internationally from the old labor-oriented left to the “new left”, which was much more concerned with ideology, multiculturalism and post-colonialism instead of genuine labor issues. This permitted the blessing of states like Iraq, Syria, and Egypt as “revolutionary” and thus the “good guys” just because they were not “western”.

- To some degree - how much is impossible to say, maybe in 50 years it will come out - the Saudis and other Arabs with money, both publicly and privately bought a great deal of the western press and many “public intellectuals”.


105 posted on 06/02/2010 12:49:37 PM PDT by buwaya
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There has been a rivalry between God and Satan since before the world was created. That fued still goes on today. Israel is Gods chosen people and people hate that. They have always tried to destroy Israel.


107 posted on 06/02/2010 12:50:33 PM PDT by beckysueb (January 20, 2013. When Obama becomes just a skidmark on the panties of American history.)
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You have this alliance of the traditional European anti-semite and the political Left (the 2 are not mutually exclusive). Political Left thinks Israel is a continuation of Western Imperialism against the native Arabs therefore it must be opposed.


108 posted on 06/02/2010 12:50:38 PM PDT by C19fan
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Serious answer, courtesy of MIT political science professor Tom Lehrer, in his article “National Brotherhood Week” published in multiple venues.


Oh, the white folks hate the black folks
And the black folks hate the white folks
To hate all but the right folks
Is an old established rule

But during National Brotherhood Week
National Brotherhood Week
Lena Horne and Sheriff Clark
Are dancing cheek to cheek
It’s fun to eulogize
The people you despise
As long as you don’t let ‘em in your school

Oh, the poor folks hate the rich folks
And the rich folks hate the poor folks
All of my folks hate all of your folks
It’s American as apple pie

But during National Brotherhood Week
National Brotherhood Week
New Yorkers love the Puerto Ricans
‘Cause it’s very chic
Step up and shake the hand
Of someone you can’t stand
You can tolerate him if you try

Oh, the Protestants hate the Catholics
And the Catholics hate the Protestants
And the Hindus hate the Moslems
And everybody hates the Jews

But during National Brotherhood Week
National Brotherhood Week
It’s National Everyone-Smile-At-
One-Another-hood Week
Be nice to people who
Are inferior to you
It’s only for a week, so have no fear
Be grateful that it doesn’t last all year!


The bottom line: lots and lots of liberals hate the Jews, and they don’t need any more reason than that.


112 posted on 06/02/2010 12:52:28 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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If you are looking for a straight answer to that question, then you have come to the wrong place!


115 posted on 06/02/2010 12:53:08 PM PDT by joseph20 (...to ourselves and our Posterity...)
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I think the best and truest explanation I’ve ever heard on this outrageous and disproportionate hatred for Israel came from a Rabbi many years ago...

“When God chose Israel, so did Satan.”


118 posted on 06/02/2010 12:54:41 PM PDT by Southnsoul
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Sarah Palin’s backing Israel...


125 posted on 06/02/2010 12:58:21 PM PDT by GOPJ (http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php?area=dam&lang=eng)
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I ask myself that all of the time.

Public school and MSM indoctrination against Israel maybe.


136 posted on 06/02/2010 1:04:39 PM PDT by CriticalJ (Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of Congress.. But then I repeat myself. MT)
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Because Neaderthal man yet lives?!?

No ryhme nor reason, sir. We are bound to stand by Israel, but evil abounds in this world.


153 posted on 06/02/2010 1:13:57 PM PDT by Caipirabob ( Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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Some people do hate Israel, but I don’t think that’s what’s going on with many. Israel had much of the world’s sympathy during the Six Day War (1967) and the Yom Kippur War (1973).

But in the years following, the phenomenon of white guilt began to infect many Euros, Americans, Canadians, Australians, New Zealanders, etc. Many groups that were minorities in the white majority nations began to acquire the much treasured and valuable victim status. And during the past thirty or so years, the so-called Palestinians also acquired victim status and the Israelis no longer looked like the tiny nation fighting for survival against many hostile nations.

Now Israel is a powerful nation that has won several military victories, and the Palestinians are an unsuccessful group that spends much of its time baiting Israel and seeking international sympathy. And sympathy for all recognized victim groups is a religious requirement for the left all over the world, especially the guilt-ridden, white leftist.

Plus, the rise of Islamic fundamentalism and hostility toward all things non-Muslim has also made things worse. It’s a combination of old antisemitism and the recently acquired victim status of the so-called Palestinians.


156 posted on 06/02/2010 1:16:56 PM PDT by Will88
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