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Faisal Shahzad’s anti-Americanism (excellent read by Pakistani reporter!)
dawn ^ | 5/8/2010 | Pervez Hoodbhoy

Posted on 05/08/2010 2:43:21 PM PDT by milwguy

The man who tried to set off a car bomb in Times Square was a Pakistani. Why is this unsurprising? Because when you hold a burning match to a gasoline tank, the laws of chemistry demand combustion.

Ideas considered extreme a decade ago are now mainstream. A private survey carried out by a European embassy based in Islamabad found that only four per cent of Pakistanis polled speak well of America; 96 per cent against.

Although Pakistan and the US are formal allies, in the public perception the US has ousted India as Pakistan’s number one enemy. Remarkably, anti-US sentiment rises in proportion to aid received. Say a good word about the US, and you are labelled as its agent. From what TV anchors had to say about it, Kerry-Lugar’s $7.5bn may well have been money that the US wants to steal from Pakistan rather than give to it.

(Excerpt) Read more at dawn.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: obama; pakistan; taliban
While you may not agree with some of what the writer says, I think it is always instructive to read things from the perspective of the Pakistani's.

The conclusion to this article is spot on in my opinion........... There is little doubt that the US has committed acts of aggression, as in Iraq, and maintains the world’s largest military machine. We know that it will make a deal with the Taliban if perceived to be in its self-interest — even if that means abandoning the Afghans to bloodthirsty fanatics. Yet, it would be wrong to scorn the humanitarian impulse behind US assistance in times of desperation. Shall we write off massive US assistance to Pakistan at the time of the earthquake of 2005? Or to tsunami-affected countries in 2004?

In truth, the US is no more selfish or altruistic than any other country. And it treats its Muslim citizens infinitely better than we treat non-Muslims in Pakistan.

Instead of pronouncing moral judgments on everything and anything, we Pakistanis need to reaffirm what is truly important for our people: peace, economic justice, good governance, rule of law, accountability of rulers, women’s rights and rationality in human affairs. Washington must be resisted, but only when it seeks to drag Pakistan away from these goals. More frenzied anti-Americanism will produce more Faisal Shahzads.

1 posted on 05/08/2010 2:43:21 PM PDT by milwguy
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To: milwguy

This admin has just threatened that if an attack is successful the US will go in and respond.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/09/world/asia/09pstan.html?hp

That would bring down the Paki government.

The radicals would take over.

Oh, Paki has nukes.

They have just encouraged the terrorists to carry out more attacks in the US.


2 posted on 05/08/2010 2:46:47 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com << Get your science fiction and fiction test marketed)
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To: milwguy

President Obama’s going to repair this relationship, along with so many others that have been damaged by more than 500 years of bad management by Republicans and their predecessors, the Nazis.


3 posted on 05/08/2010 2:56:11 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Obama goes on long after the thrill of Obama is gone)
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To: milwguy

milwguy
Are you Pakistani, or did you merely neglect to use quotation marks?
It’s a little hard to differentiate your comments from what could well be comments by the Paki writer.


4 posted on 05/08/2010 3:00:43 PM PDT by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D.: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: milwguy
"found that only four per cent of Pakistanis polled speak well of America; 96 per cent against."

So.....at what point do you decide to stop all immigration from a country? I would think with only 4% support, that would be sufficient.....

hh
5 posted on 05/08/2010 3:01:25 PM PDT by hoosier hick (Note to RINOs: We need a choice, not an echo....Barry Goldwater)
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To: milwguy

milwguy
Are you Pakistani, or did you merely neglect to use quotation marks?
It’s a little hard to differentiate your comments from what could well be comments by the Paki writer.

And btw: the plural of “Pakistani” is not “Pakistani’s”


6 posted on 05/08/2010 3:02:40 PM PDT by Redbob (W.W.J.B.D.: "What Would Jack Bauer Do?")
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To: hoosier hick

I say no immigration to any country in the West, from any muslim country. Period. They don’t appear to be any different from a nazi or communist who’s desire is to destroy the host country that provides freedom and opportunity and turn it into another 3rd world, islamic $hithole and subjugate, kill or convert the enlightened ones, i.e., non-muslims. Do I make myself clear? In the meantime, the muslims that are already here are nothing more than cells waiting for the motherlode of flotsam to float ashore and continue their destruction of the West. Read “Camp of the Saints”, a great prophetic book from 35 years ago of what’s going on in the West. Sadly, most of it at our own hand. Wake up before it’s too late. Oh, and you “moderate” muslims, get out of the closet and convert to Christianity, and you’ll be spared.


7 posted on 05/08/2010 3:07:20 PM PDT by john drake (Roman military maxim; "oderint dum metuant," i.e., "let them hate, as long as they fear.")
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To: GeronL
"That would bring down the Paki government.
The radicals would take over."

Then we'd have to take over and bring demoncracy to them.

It's what we do.

8 posted on 05/08/2010 3:23:10 PM PDT by trickyricky
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...There is little doubt that the US has committed acts of aggression...

Well, 1861-1865 comes to mind, but since then? Maybe Woodrow Wilson's attack on Veracruz and sending Pershing into Mexico to try to catch Pancho Villa, but the latter is debatable (since Villa had killed Americans on US soil).

Maybe some of Clinton's "wag the dog" actions...

9 posted on 05/08/2010 3:23:36 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: GeronL

Of course. Obama wants a reason to declare martial law. Any reason will do.

He hates America and Americans, period. All he wants is power and money.


10 posted on 05/08/2010 3:25:54 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NO Foreign Nationals as our President!!)
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To: trickyricky

My preference: green-light India to “take care” of the problem. India has a population advantage of about 1 billion to about 145 million....

hh


11 posted on 05/08/2010 3:26:26 PM PDT by hoosier hick (Note to RINOs: We need a choice, not an echo....Barry Goldwater)
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To: trickyricky

The radicals would then have nuclear weapons.


12 posted on 05/08/2010 3:29:40 PM PDT by GeronL (http://libertyfic.proboards.com << Get your science fiction and fiction test marketed)
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To: milwguy

Too bad about Pervez Hoodbhoy, he had so much to live for.


13 posted on 05/08/2010 3:30:41 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The naked casuistry of the high priests of Warmism would make a Jesuit blush.)
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To: Steely Tom
And President Obama will help rid the world of the “Zionist Entity.”
14 posted on 05/08/2010 3:50:50 PM PDT by HenpeckedCon (What pi$$es me off the most is that POS commie will get a State Funeral!)
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To: milwguy

This article seems to point to the “ugly American “ , a general hatred for America,as the reason for the attack and for the hatred of America.. when the reason is ISLAM ..they hate a Christian nation.. They hate a jewish nation.. Jihad was the reason, not the ugly American ...after all Europeans have hated us a long time and never attempted to blow us up


15 posted on 05/08/2010 4:42:11 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: john drake

Yeah, right /sarc

You do realize that there are non-Muslims in Muslim nations, right? Many leave and come here to live a life in peace. You gonna stop them, too?


16 posted on 05/08/2010 5:02:08 PM PDT by Clock King (Ellisworth Toohey was right: My head's gonna explode.)
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To: Clock King; john drake

They can ask for asylum like escapees from the Soviet Union used to do.

Islam is not compatible with the Constitution.


17 posted on 05/08/2010 5:50:35 PM PDT by donna (The best security for old age: respect your children. - Sholem Asch)
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To: hoosier hick
"green-light India"

Now that's a sweet solution.

I like those Indian babes.
They're always so polite when I have a cell phone problem.

18 posted on 05/09/2010 6:51:58 AM PDT by trickyricky
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