Posted on 04/22/2010 2:54:33 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan
I got you, and that was probably what took place according to post #265???
“The state attorneys, attorneys generals, FBI, secret service, governors, lieutenant governors, ombudsman, and Congress have all refused to do a thing.”
Well, that means either a lot of folks who don’t know each other are maintaining a perfect conspiracy, or your case sucks...
They haven’t taken a pro-active stance against little Martians invading my yard, but I just SS&SU.
Is that the Roberts post about the re-administration of the Oath of Office?
I actually think that was just an honest mistake by Roberts, and all parties - including Roberts - thought it best to re-administer the oath to err on the side of caution.
I know exactly where it is. But I do have one. I'll take it that you do not.
Have you reported any of these crimes to the authorities?
Absolutely. If you look on my blog at http://butterdezillion.wordpress.com/2010/01/11/red-flags-in-hawaii-2/ you can see that they all refused to do anything about it.
Thanks for your expert opinion.
Lakin and his legal team may well expect him to be found guilty as part of his ultimate strategy.
The fact pattern is unprecedented. Never before has a CIC refused to release contemporaneous documents that would prove that he born in the USA. Never before have military men had to wrestle with the implications of that refusal for their duty to defend the Constitution.
Then what would be the point of any soldier doing so?
What you say may well be the case, but before the military can convict a man they better get the answer from the civilian entities regarding whether Obama is a Constitutional president.
Hawaii law says that because Obama’s BC is amended, no legal conclusion regarding his birth can be made without all the birth documents being presented as evidence to a judicial or administrative person or body. And we know that hasn’t happened. Obama refuses to LET that happen.
So regardless of who signed what certification and who made what oath of office - what is legally required to verify Obama’s eligibility has never happened. His status as a Constitutional president has never even been CHECKED - much less confirmed.
That is what Lakin is asking to have done. Maybe a civil court has to do the actual determination. So far they have all refused to do so. But I don’t see how the military could convict a man of disobeying legal, Consitutional orders if the Constitutionality of the person pretending to be CIC has never even been checked.
And that is why this country is toast. We assume that government, media, and law enforcement can do no wrong - even when our lyin’ eyes tell us otherwise.
The HDOH’s own documents - when taken together with the rules (which they illegally hid. Did you catch that? They illegally hid the rules until November 2009, even when asked forcefully and repeatedly by people citing the laws to them) - absolutely show that the Factcheck COLB is a forgery.
Why do you have no problem with that? I don’t get it. Do you support the rule of law or not? What more evidence does it take just to initiate an investigation? If the legal documents that I have posted aren’t enough to initiate an investigation then good heavens, man! What is?
“I believe you have nailed the essence of the question with your above statement. But the bottom line as I read all the back and forth is that it isn’t the job of the military [UCMJ] to make that determination but rather it belongs in the civilian domain [Congress or the Judiciary]. Just my take on the back and forth.”
Then it’s going to be interesting to see what Blago can accomplish with his filing notion Thursday for subpoena the usurper to testify:
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/iteam&id=7400895
Also, I hear you saying that the NCIS will assume that somebody else is covering this.
Do you know what lazy asses that portrays the NCIS as? Especially given that they are supposed to have taken oaths to protect the Constitution.
I don’t think you hear how what you’re saying sounds. Nobody will do anything because they will all assume that the people in Hawaii are doing what they’re supposed to be doing. I have documented that the Hawaii officials have committed crimes of their own. They are the ones I would be asking the NCIS to investigate!
So why would the NCIS or anybody else automatically assume that they couldn’t have done what they are accused of? It’s cronyism, and it will kill this nation. It’s the same reason that Congress-critters can’t be trusted to investigate other Congress-critters, and why Janet Reno couldn’t be trusted to investigate Clinton, even after 2 different Congressional reports (Cox and Thompson) strongly recommended a federal legal investigation - which Reno just said “no” to and we watched Clinton sell our military secrets to China for campaign funds and throw away the “Able Danger” records on Atta and his crew because Able Danger had also found suspicions information on Sec of Defense William Perry.
They were all in bed together and eventually America got screwed by their political crap - to the tune of 3,000 innocent Americans being slaughtered in one day.
And we STILL haven’t learned to be vigilant.
Sigh.
> have some legal obligation to report “crimes” that you allege on an internet > blog, to authorities, I really don’t know how to respond. Oh come now OldDeckHand, of course you "know how to respond"!
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I don’t know I just referred to her question!!!
Err on the side of caution?
I need to clean up my monitor.
When in this whole debacle has ANYBODY erred on the side of real caution? Erred in favor of making absolutely SURE that everything was how it should be?
The irony of your statement is beyond belief.
The point of every soldier doing so is that they couldn’t say that the e-mail got lost.
Such a noble people we would be if e-mails never got “lost”.
Blago's subpoena of Obama is an entirely different kettle of fish. Obama has first hand knowledge of matters of fact in Blago's case. Obama spoke to FBI investigators at least once, perhaps more, and for several hours. Obama may have made public statements contradicting what he privately told investigators. Obama is ass-deep in this. The chances of Obama quashing Blago's subpoena is small, very very small.
This is why I think Blago will either plead out, or the government will drop the case, or Blago will unexpectedly assume room temperature.
Prediction. If Lakin is convicted, the court martial panel will refuse to incarcerate him, and he will have grounds for appeal his military conviction. Moreover, at the same time Lakin is appealing his court martial, he will go after Obama’s sorry ass in civil court for wrongful dismissal where he will have standing.
And Obama hasn’t made public statements that contradict what the official records actually show?
The HDOH has already confirmed that Obama’s public statements - including the image that he posted online - contradict his official documents. The White House stationery letter he signed and put a raised seal on claimed something we know from the documents is absolutely false.
If it isn’t a crime when the HDOH confirms it, then why would it be a crime if Blago alleges it?
If the one should be investigated by the FBI and/or other law enforcement then so should the other.
No, it was his “secret” meeting as the selected Usurper with SCOTUS members to “take” care of everything that we now clearly see is transpiring today in courts, and naturally before he scolded them publicly in the SOUA (address)!!!
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