Posted on 02/28/2010 8:07:37 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster
March 1, 2010
‘Invincible’ Taleban routed in raids on border camps
Anthony Loyd in Peshawar
Significant leaders of the Pakistani Taleban have been killed or captured in an onslaught of frontier ground and air attacks, a Pakistani general has told The Times.
“The militant command and control centres and their caches have been dismantled or captured,” said Major-General Tariq Khan, one of the country’s most experienced commanders in the frontier war with the Taleban. “The kind of hits the leadership has taken, the casualties they have taken, the TTP [Pakistani Taleban] is no longer significant,” he said. “It has ended as a cohesive force. It doesn’t exist any more as an umbrella organisation that can influence militancy anywhere.”
The claims come at a time of improved military co-operation between America and Pakistan, in which US drones have killed a number of key Pakistani Taleban commanders, and Pakistani security agents have arrested at least four senior Afghan Taleban leaders over the past month.
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It has so annoyed me seeing people suggest the Taliban could and would inevitably win.
There are too many americans that are reliably anti US troops.
The Taliban really are not all that awesome.
Its nice to see reality check articles like this one.
It's the same old hop back and forth across the border - whack a Tali on one side, they pop up on the other...
Consider who is the CIC. Do you trust the media to accurately report what is happening or do you suspect (as I do) that they just might want to paint Obumbler as the mighty general and conquering hero? If they are really defeating the enemy, then the locals will start siding with the good guys instead of being afraid that the Taliban will come back when the good guys leave.
I’ll reserve judgment.
I think you are right.
But I still never think that the Taliban are impressive in any respect. They are not militarily sophisticated or magical. They are culturally abhorrent. The world really is moving rapidly beyond these fools. Its all the rapid change that makes them violent.
I say let them die trying to roll back the world’s clock. We will kill them more kindly than the russians did.
Personally, I am fine with a world filled with predator drones for those that think the 7th century is their cup of tea. Eventually, they will get the message.
Well, there has been some improvement. Now Talibans are squeezed from both sides: Afghanistan and Pakistan. Unless they secure new sanctuary outside both countries, things will get difficult for them. The success now depends on how they can manage Afghanistan in terms of politics and economy. If they screw up, no doubt Talibans or some other group will be back.
What is “winning” in Afghan especially when you have a muslim CIC. These people change sides by the moment. The country has opium and other smuggling and war. War and tribal fighting are their main industry.
Not to mention about $100 million in aid to Afghanistan that was siphoned off by crooked pols and sent to the Taliban. Put a wall around all the ‘stans in the ME and then let them kill each other.
This should have been going on all along - but it wasn't.
And now, with the new ROE the new muzzie loving CIC has ham strung our troops with - the tali's have it pretty sweet on the 'ghan side. They are taking full advantage of obyummers ROE that give THEM the advantage and is resulting in the highest numbers in loses of OUR troops since the first year of the war.
the most egregious and traitorous part of the new ROE? When they conceived and implemented them they ACKNOWLEDGED it would reuslt in higher losses for our troops, but deemed it was acceptable and would be worth it in the long run.
and none dare call it treason?
I do.
TREASON
The major change in the war against the Taliban is that they are now sandwiched inbetween Pakistani troops (with US liaisons and drone air strikes). Thus not only are the Taliban hit by ground troops, artillery and aircraft, but also at any time by the drones, the fourth leg of the offensive to decapitate their leadership and demoralize the regular fighters.
On the Afghan side, we are doing the same thing, some of which is unannounced and for good reasons.
Now that the Taliban has fled from Marjah, despite their vows to hold it, they have lost some face. And remember, everyone of their members killed even in the delaying actions, is one less fanatic to fight another day.
The old squeeze play is on, and I expect that you will see some very innovative US/NATO operations in the future. If you read good Vietnam military histories/operational reports, you’ll know what I mean.
Been there.
I pray you’re right - for the sake of those I know and communicate with who are boots on the ground in the area. I hope they soon see this happening.
They’re not “invincible,” and it annoys me when I see that, too. They’re actually on the losing curve - the guy with the most technology always wins, and they’re not that guy. Furthermore, they’re not popular among their own people, so if we can release their people from fear by showing that we are winning and are determined to oust the Taliban, the latter will have no support at all.
Well, unless we make them “invincible” by refusing to use our technology and fighting them on their own turf in their own terms.
I agree, but on that subject: the Taliban have a new form of body-armor, even better than the typical Muslim tactic of cowering behind their own womenfolk while talking big.
Like an invisible shield it can defeat any weapon. It's called "hiding behind the Coalition's own rules of engagement"
Not to mention their A-bomb, which is "coming back the week after Obama declares victory and withdraws the Infidel dogs"
***The claims come at a time of improved military co-operation between America and Pakistan***
I reckon Pakistan figured out that if you play with a snake long enough it will bite you. Better to chop off it’s head from the get go.
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