Posted on 02/28/2010 3:24:08 PM PST by Vaquero
WASHINGTON – The White House called for a "simple up-or-down" vote on health care legislation Sunday as Speaker Nancy Pelosi appealed to House Democrats to get behind President Barack Obama's chief domestic priority even it if threatens their political careers.
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that POSOTUS is a dooooosh.
Screw the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Ruling Class, establish Tyranny, insure domestic Insurrection...
I don’t think that there’s any question it (the Reconciliation bill) will get past the Senate. The real battle is in the House, now. I’m skeptical Nan can get it done, but you never know.
Democrats would scream bloody murder if Republicans called for a simple up or down vote on abortion, affirmative action, etc., etc.
It is health care confiscation!
And I'm impressed with the sheer immenseness of the number of my fellow Americans who understand this key point so precisely.
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60/40 is pretty simple. You just count the votes and if there are 60, it passes.
Maybe Obama isn’t as smart as we thought, if he can’t compare two things unless they are equal.
This is crap. They had enough people to shut down the filibuster. Their “up or down” claim and it’s failure rests squarely with them and their dealmaking.
Democrats would scream bloody murder if Republicans called for a simple up or down vote on abortion, affirmative action, etc., etc.
You’re right. That is exactly what the Pubbies should do now.
We don't have the votes!! We could never get it to the floor past Reid and Pelosi.
Wishful thinking until 2012.....concentrate on getting the Congress back in 2010 for now!!
I guess this is their way of spinning reconciliation.
They are flailing now.
True. There is so much to do, guess we need to prioritize. And 2010 Congress is what we need to work on.
To the Dem Senators/Reps: Do ya feel lucky, punk? Well do ya?
I still think this huge Government seizure of 1/6th of the economy could be defunded by future Congresses.
It's like Obama said (and I might add an excellent sound bite for political commercials) “this is what elections are for.”
Can’t get it done the right way, huh Jack Squat Barry?
Yeah, they’re short the votes in the House right now, but can Nancy twist enough arms?
Last estimate had her short by approximately 15.
What if the Rat’s lose?
Will stretch and Dingy propose best 2 of 3
Then best 3 of 5
Then best 4 of 7
........
didn’t zero spend enough time in the senate to know how congress works? I keep forgetting. He’s a slow learner
WELL!! That didn’t take long, did it?? Friday the word was they would at least take some time to make it appear that they considered what the Republicans proposed Thursday, but that lie did not even survive the weekend.
I hope they try it. I really do, because this could be the single best way to clean the House once and for all.
Personally, I’d support Paul Ryan for the next Speaker...
Kent Conrad, who chairs the committee that would have to deal with this, has basically said they can’t use reconciliation.
The interesting dynamic here is that this must pass the House first, but the House members are tired of sticking their necks out, just to be rebuked by the Senate.
This will not end well. The White House is still in denial.
OBAMANOMICS—TRICKLE DOWN DESTRUCTION of the economy
SET THEIR LOCAL AND DC LINES ON FIRE!
Bambi doesn’t keep his promises...so buyer beware!
Sen Scott Brown’s number is 202-224-4543
Capitol Hill switchboard is 202-224-3121
Lots of local demwit phone numbers on this thread
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2408217/posts
Rename, repackage, rewrite it a tad smaller, and sell another pig in a poke. NO COLAs for granny, retired Military or retired fed employees. BIG NEW fees for Tricare for Life retired over 65 Military’s secondary health ins.
(DOD bill already passed, delayed but goes into effect 2011 NEEDS TO BE REPEALED!
OBAMA’s WAR ON SENIORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2433867/posts/
New Dem mantra: Woof, woof eat dog food granny....ala let them eat cake. http://www.lifenews.com/bio3058.html
Friday, February 19, 2010
Obama says slight fix will extend Social Security
http://townhall.com/news/us/2010/02/19/obama_says_slight_fix_will_extend_social_security
Health Care Rationing for Seniors Another Problem in New Obama Plan http://www.lifenews.com/bio3058.html
SOCIALIZED MED THREAD http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2460358/posts
TRI CARE FOR LIFE This from a google search:
http://economicspolitics.blogspot.com/2009/05/tricare-for-life-is-obama-trying-to.html
This option would help reduce the costs of TFL, as well as costs for Medicare, by introducing minimum out-of pocket requirements for beneficiaries. Under this option, TFL would not cover any of the first $525 of an enrollee’s cost-sharing liabilities for calendar year 2011 and would limit coverage to 50 percent of the next $4,725 in Medicare cost sharing that the beneficiary incurred. (Because all further cost sharing would be covered by TFL, enrollees could not pay more than $2,888 in cost sharing in that year.) http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/99xx/doc9925/12-18-HealthOptions.pdf
http://www.vawatchdog.org/09/hcva09/hcva110609-1.htm
Bill Would Restrict Veterans’ Health Care Options 11/06/09
Buyer and McKeon Offer Amendments to Protect Veterans and TRICARE Beneficiaries
Congress plans to block Tricare fee increases
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w
http://www.navytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w/
By Rick Maze - Staff writer, Oct 7, 2009
Tricare fee increases imposed last week by the Defense Department will be repealed by a provision of the compromise 2010 defense authorization bill unveiled Wednesday by House and Senate negotiators.
Snip The fee increases were announced on Sept. 30 and took effect on Oct. 1, but the defense bill, HR 2647, includes a provision barring any fee increases until the start of fiscal 2011.
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Retired Army Maj. Gen. Bill Matz, president of the National Association for Uniformed Services, said the announcement of fee increases was shocking considering that the Obama administration promised earlier this year to hold off on any new fee Tricare fee increases until fiscal 2011.
“President Obama and DoD assured NAUS and the entire military family earlier this year that there would rightly be no increases in any Tricare fees” in fiscal 2010, Matz said. “We took them at their word, and I can’t believe that a co-pay increase like this was allowed to go forward,” he added.
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