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Healthcare, elections & 'nuclear option' Pelosi says she hopes for GOP votes "but it doesn't matter"
The Chicago Tribune ^ | February 26, 2010 | Mark Silva

Posted on 02/27/2010 10:18:55 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

It was nearly one year ago, as House Speaker Nancy Pelosi recalled it today, that the president initiated a bipartisan discussion at the White House on healthcare.

"It was a great day,'' said Pelosi (D-Calif.) "It was House and Senate, Democrats and Republicans, outside stakeholders, consumers all present, of course. The biggest presence outside the president was when Sen. Kennedy came into the room and said I'm here to enlist as a foot soldier in the fight -- in the campaign to pass health care reform.

"It had been his life's work,'' she said of the late, longtime senator from Massachusetts. "He would later say to the president, 'This is not about the details of policy; it's about the character of our country.'"

One year later, and one more bipartisan Blair House meeting behind them, the House speaker said today at her weekly news conference that she and many of our colleagues "carry that with us as we go forward.'' And going forward, they are.

President Barack Obama, Pelosi said, has demonstrated both a passion for the pursuit and "encyclopedic knowledge'' of the issue.

The seven-hour session at Blair House this week "made a difference,'' the speaker said, suggesting that it has "moved us closer to passing a bill that meets the sort of triple-A standard of accountability of the insurance companies, accessibility of many more people and, very important to us in the House, affordability for the middle class.''

And the path forward may not be that complicated, the speaker said.

""What you call a complicated process is called a simple majority,'' she said. "And that's what we're asking the Senate to act upon.... It's up to them.''(continued)

(Excerpt) Read more at swamppolitics.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: democrats; healthcare; obama; obamacare; pelosi
I hope they're stupid enough to go through with it.
1 posted on 02/27/2010 10:18:55 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

She doesn’t have the votes now to pass the Senate version and she won’t as the election draws closer.


2 posted on 02/27/2010 10:21:58 AM PST by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If the Dems can pass the death care bill with simple majorities, they the GOP can figure out a way to repeal it with simple majorities. The so-called benefits don’t start for years (but the taxes a little sooner).

As Scott Brown ran and won on in MA the 41st vote against death care, the GOP should be able to run and win across the U.S. on the promise of repealing death care in 2010 and 2012.


3 posted on 02/27/2010 10:22:46 AM PST by coaltrain
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
""What you call a complicated process is called a simple majority,''

The idiot does have a simple majority in the House and all they have to do is vote to pass the Senate version and it becomes law after the President signs it.

So, the fact is that the American People, through the House, are saying NO to this Bill.

4 posted on 02/27/2010 10:23:44 AM PST by fortheDeclaration ("Our constitution was made only for a moral and religious people".-John Adams)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I just want to b*tch slap somebody every time I hear some commie ‘RAT politician say, “Let’s get this done”. They sound like they are going out to the barn to “put down” a horse.


5 posted on 02/27/2010 10:29:46 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer ("Suitcase Jake" RIP 02-25-10. You were one of a kind good buddy!)
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To: coaltrain

“As Scott Brown ran and won on in MA the 41st vote against death care, the GOP should be able to run and win across the U.S. on the promise of repealing death care in 2010 and 2012.”

First, you have to win the house and the senate. Second, you have to win the white house. Obama will veto any repeal. Take 2/3 rd’s in both house to override the veto.


6 posted on 02/27/2010 10:39:20 AM PST by DugwayDuke
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

...”but it doesn’t matter”

Hey Nanzi... it never has mattered, you friggin’ socialist lunatic.


7 posted on 02/27/2010 10:40:37 AM PST by Common Sense 101
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

THE REPUBLCAN SHOULD BE............

OH WHAT’S THE USE.... ORIN, MCLAME, LINDSAY WILL ALL JUST FOLD UP LIKE WIMPS

WE ARE DEAD IN THE WATER UNTIL WE GET RID OF THE RINO’s


8 posted on 02/27/2010 10:46:02 AM PST by Mr. K (This administration IS WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

It would be nice to see Peloshe and Reid voted out of office. They are both menaces to society.


9 posted on 02/27/2010 10:48:30 AM PST by FreedBird (D)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

She’s whistling past the graveyard on a dark and stormy night.


10 posted on 02/27/2010 11:16:43 AM PST by FrankR (Those of us who love AMERICA far outnumber those who love obama - your choice.)
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I hope the American public is smart enough to do something serious about it. Image and video hosting by TinyPic
11 posted on 02/27/2010 11:17:49 AM PST by MtnMan101 (THE PROBLEM WITH SOCIALISUM IS THAT YOU EVENTUALLY RUN OUT OF OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t understand why “nuclear option” was included in the headline. AFAIK, no one has suggested using, and it would make no sense to use, the “nuclear option” for this legislation.

There has been plenty of talk about using “reconciliation,” which is not the same as the “nuclear option.”


12 posted on 02/27/2010 12:14:23 PM PST by upchuck (I'm glad I'm old. Thus I can remember when America was a decent, moral, God fearing country.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

every comment i see on the link shows how mundane the left really is. i say about 75% of the comments on there talk nothing about how the GOP didn’t do diddly squat, and avoid the questions with their stupid childish rabble replies from those who ask them questions. they are sincerely sick.


13 posted on 02/27/2010 1:28:21 PM PST by Dominic01 ("...You know the one with the big ears? He ain't my President" - Etta James)
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To: coaltrain

OBAMANOMICS—TRICKLE DOWN DESTRUCTION of the economy

SET THEIR LOCAL AND DC LINES ON FIRE!

Bambi doesn’t keep his promises...so buyer beware!
Sen Scott Brown’s number is 202-224-4543

Capitol Hill switchboard is 202-224-3121

Lots of local demwit phone numbers on this thread

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2408217/posts

Rename, repackage, rewrite it a tad smaller, and sell another pig in a poke. NO COLAs for granny, retired Military or retired fed employees. BIG NEW fees for Tricare for Life retired over 65 Military’s secondary health ins.
(DOD bill already passed, delayed but goes into effect 2011 NEEDS TO BE REPEALED!

OBAMA’s WAR ON SENIORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2433867/posts/

New Dem mantra: Woof, woof eat dog food granny....ala let them eat cake. http://www.lifenews.com/bio3058.html
Friday, February 19, 2010

Obama says slight fix will extend Social Security
http://townhall.com/news/us/2010/02/19/obama_says_slight_fix_will_extend_social_security

Health Care Rationing for Seniors Another Problem in New Obama Plan http://www.lifenews.com/bio3058.html

SOCIALIZED MED THREAD http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2460358/posts

TRI CARE FOR LIFE This from a google search:

http://economicspolitics.blogspot.com/2009/05/tricare-for-life-is-obama-trying-to.html

This option would help reduce the costs of TFL, as well as costs for Medicare, by introducing minimum out-of pocket requirements for beneficiaries. Under this option, TFL would not cover any of the first $525 of an enrollee’s cost-sharing liabilities for calendar year 2011 and would limit coverage to 50 percent of the next $4,725 in Medicare cost sharing that the beneficiary incurred. (Because all further cost sharing would be covered by TFL, enrollees could not pay more than $2,888 in cost sharing in that year.) http://www.cbo.gov/ftpdocs/99xx/doc9925/12-18-HealthOptions.pdf

http://www.vawatchdog.org/09/hcva09/hcva110609-1.htm
Bill Would Restrict Veterans’ Health Care Options 11/06/09
Buyer and McKeon Offer Amendments to Protect Veterans and TRICARE Beneficiaries

Congress plans to block Tricare fee increases
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w

http://www.navytimes.com/news/2009/10/military_tricarefees_blocked_100709w/

By Rick Maze - Staff writer, Oct 7, 2009

Tricare fee increases imposed last week by the Defense Department will be repealed by a provision of the compromise 2010 defense authorization bill unveiled Wednesday by House and Senate negotiators.
Snip The fee increases were announced on Sept. 30 and took effect on Oct. 1, but the defense bill, HR 2647, includes a provision barring any fee increases until the start of fiscal 2011.

Snip

Retired Army Maj. Gen. Bill Matz, president of the National Association for Uniformed Services, said the announcement of fee increases was shocking considering that the Obama administration promised earlier this year to hold off on any new fee Tricare fee increases until fiscal 2011.

“President Obama and DoD assured NAUS and the entire military family earlier this year that there would rightly be no increases in any Tricare fees” in fiscal 2010, Matz said. “We took them at their word, and I can’t believe that a co-pay increase like this was allowed to go forward,” he added.


14 posted on 02/27/2010 1:46:20 PM PST by GailA (obamacare paid for by cuts & taxes on most vulnerable Veterans, disabled,seniors & retired Military)
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“Obama will veto any repeal. Take 2/3 rd’s in both house to override the veto.”

If they don’t fund it in the budget bill will he veto that and shut down the entire government? I hope so.

Plan B, then wait until 2012 with a Repub Prez and kill it. It’s so called benefits don’t start until at least 2013.


15 posted on 02/27/2010 3:54:11 PM PST by coaltrain
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