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I thought this might be interesting tp everyone. The facts are these: The gay marriage bill lost on the Senate floor 24-38 after being passed by the State Assembly. All Senate Republicans voted against it, along with eight Democrats. During the debate, the Republicans said nothing; all of the debate was among the Democrats, who control a 32-member majority of the chamber (i.e., they have a two-vote majority, 32-30). To say that the debate was terrible is to dignify rubbish; it was incoherent, mostly an attack on and patronization of the religion of those against the bill, along the lines of "This bill won't harm you, really it won't," and "What are you defending anyway?"--horrible.

What's instructive is that Democrats pushing a liberal agenda bill in one of the most liberal states in the country, with one of the largest gay populations in its major city, not only couldn't muster enough votes to pass the bill, but only garnered enough votes to embarrass themselves. Continuing their strategy of incoherence, they then blamed Republicans and "political intimidation." I have no idea what this means.

I note that Democrats seem unable to count votes (perhaps they needed ACORN!), and that the advocates apparently spent so much time talking to each other that they failed to spend any time talking to anyone else.

1 posted on 12/07/2009 12:10:51 AM PST by publius1
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the advocates apparently spent so much time talking to each other that they failed to spend any time talking to anyone else.

That goes for essentially all of what Democrats put up as proposed legislation these days. It is ivory tower stuff.

2 posted on 12/07/2009 12:13:00 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (I am in America but not of America.)
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"If there wasn't a vote today, I wouldn't know in a street fight Joe Addabbo doesn't have my back," said Alan Van Capelle, executive director of the Empire State Pride Agenda.

What? If the homosexual proponents are all this inarticulate, it's no wonder their excuses for the failure of this bill are incoherent.

3 posted on 12/07/2009 12:30:09 AM PST by hsalaw
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I wonder how many Democrats didn’t really want to vote yes?


4 posted on 12/07/2009 12:40:27 AM PST by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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Throw in the vote in Maine and maybe, just maybe, the pendulum is starting to swing back again. I think a lot of people who may have been indifferent or saw it as almost inevitable became disgusted with the ongoing attacks on churches after California last year. I know I did.

Tolerance is one thing. Having your nose rubbed in it is something else entirely.


5 posted on 12/07/2009 1:16:11 AM PST by Da Mav
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I have heard that at least 4 major groups always help each other to advance the cause. Homosexual, women’s lib, abortionist and minority racist groups always support each other.

These groups would be in severe trouble if not for this cooperation.


6 posted on 12/07/2009 2:46:59 AM PST by seemoAR
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