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Scientists Back Off of Ardi Claims (Evos give climate-hoaxers a run for their money...LOL!)
ICR News ^ | December 4, 2009 | Brian Thomas, M.S.

Posted on 12/04/2009 8:07:39 AM PST by GodGunsGuts

In May 2009, a remarkably well-preserved extinct primate, nicknamed “Ida,” was hailed as one of the most important fossil finds ever. It had features that some interpreted as a link between two primate body forms. At the time, ICR News suggested that its evolutionary significance was far overblown, predicting that the scientific consensus would offer retractions. Those retractions came three months later, confirming that the fossil―called Darwinius―was really just an extinct lemur variety...

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To: pby
Once the acceptance of an intelligent Creator is established,

Not intelligent Creator, Intelligent Designer. Once the acceptance of an Intelligent Designer is established, there is no more need for God.

441 posted on 12/04/2009 1:54:45 PM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: CottShop

No argument, here.


442 posted on 12/04/2009 1:55:12 PM PST by pby
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To: Gordon Greene
"And some folks actually spend some serious time defending the notion that man evolved from some sort of oozing goo to the amazing complex organisms we see today!"

So now you have taken to insulting the processes God used to create man and with it the billion Catholics that accept that? I've got to hand it to you , you have more balls than brains. We must have come from different batches of goo.

443 posted on 12/04/2009 1:56:54 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: Moonman62

BS, I comprehended what you read just fine. You said: This was a single incident and that didn’t make evos wrong. You are full of sh** if you try to spin it any other way. Yep, that’s what you said. If you want your words to be comprehended in any other way you might want to qualify your statements just a trifle better. Saying something like: Now and then evos make a mistake, but not always. That would have been much more accurate than the BS statement you made as if this was the only time scientist had ever make a mistake or made a false claim without checking further. Keep your statements clean and without BS in them and people like me won’t call you on them. F*** you and have a good day, dumb ass.


444 posted on 12/04/2009 1:57:09 PM PST by calex59
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To: ColdWater

LOL- ID scientists don’t call God dead, you asrte confused, and keep repeating htis silly claim as though a scant few within the ID movement somehow represent every ID scientist- keep spinning CW- Keep spinning- maybe if you spin enough times, God wil lallow you to ingherrit the kingdom of heaven without actually obeying how He said to in His word (which of course you don’t beleive in the first place- but meh- play the game ‘your way’- just know the consequences for beign wrong are VERY dire idneed- quite the gamble you’re taking there- but meh- I suppose to some people, pride is more important than obedience to a Creator


445 posted on 12/04/2009 1:57:17 PM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: betty boop

But the voices! The voices! Please make them stop!!!


446 posted on 12/04/2009 1:58:11 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: Natural Law

Get off your opium pipe, the entire “fossil database” is the aftermath of the Genesis judgment.

The hoax is over.


447 posted on 12/04/2009 1:58:11 PM PST by editor-surveyor (The beginning of the O'Bomb-a administration looks a lot like the end of the Nixon administration)
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To: Gordon Greene
And some folks actually spend some serious time defending the notion that man evolved from some sort of oozing goo to the amazing complex organisms we see today! ROFL!!!

We have our goo. You have your sand. At least we propose a process. All you propose is "poof" and man was created.

448 posted on 12/04/2009 1:58:37 PM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: Natural Law; GodGunsGuts; Fichori; tpanther; Gordon Greene; Ethan Clive Osgoode; betty boop; ...

And what kind of level of tolerance is demonstrated by those who wish to shut down debate through the abuse of the judiciary to silence any opposition?

And what kind of level of tolerance is demonstrated by those who advocate for big government thought control of the schools instead of leaving it in the hands of the local school board?

And what kind of level of tolerance is demonstrated by those who tell people that if they don’t like that big government control of education, they can pay for it twice to have their kids get better?

And what kind of level of tolerance is demonstrated by those who keep demanding that FR should be run the way they think it should and anything they disagree with *Belongs in religion*?


449 posted on 12/04/2009 1:58:46 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: pby

As you;’ll note- the evos only ‘argument’ revolves aroudn silly little word games, and misrepresetning their opponents- just goes to hsow how weak their ‘arguments’ really are- throwing spitwads when they realize they are out of ammo


450 posted on 12/04/2009 1:59:02 PM PST by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: Gordon Greene

And yet, the only know empircal cause of complex, specified digital codes (like DNA) is intelligent designers. Just think of how brainwashed you would have to be to ignore something so obvious!!!


451 posted on 12/04/2009 2:00:55 PM PST by GodGunsGuts
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To: ColdWater
Observable intelligent design refutes/destroys philosophical naturalism, which is the underpinning of evolution.

If it is obvious that the sculpture makes known the presence of a sculptor, we can rule out that the sculpture was formed via natural processes.

452 posted on 12/04/2009 2:03:03 PM PST by pby
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To: metmom
And what kind of level of tolerance is demonstrated by those who advocate for big government thought control of the schools instead of leaving it in the hands of the local school board?

Are you referring to the school board that was sued by the parents of the school children? Apparently you think that the school board knows better than the parents. Do you also want the school board contolling the home schoolers?

453 posted on 12/04/2009 2:05:11 PM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: editor-surveyor
"Get off your opium pipe, the entire “fossil database” is the aftermath of the Genesis judgment."

Folks, you just can't make this sh*t up. It's the FR equivalent to watching e-s kick himself in the nuts. I keep expecting Bob Saget to give an intro before and a wise crack after each one of his posts.

454 posted on 12/04/2009 2:05:30 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: metmom

The court found the following. Sounds like they were talking about you!

“The citizens of the Dover area were poorly served by the members of the Board who voted for the ID Policy. It is ironic that several of these individuals, who so staunchly and proudly touted their religious convictions in public, would time and again lie to cover their tracks and disguise the real purpose behind the ID Policy.”


455 posted on 12/04/2009 2:07:16 PM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: RoadGumby

Wow, you just make it up as you go, eh? BIG SHOCKER...

I come onto this thread because it is posted in “News/Activism”, comes through my RSS feed and attempts to pervert science and the method scientists use to police their own....to fit its “Man lived with dinosaurs” needs, just like every other GGG posted BTMS* nonsense.

Go ahead...now it’s time to tell me when and where I’m allowed to comment and what I must say when commenting....but it is STILL not calling your God into question or calling Him a liar, liar.


456 posted on 12/04/2009 2:08:08 PM PST by ElectricStrawberry (Didja know that Man walked with 100+ species of large meat eating dinos within the last 4,351 years?)
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To: pby

Whatever. If you prefer to support the Intelligent Designer over supporting God, no problem here.


457 posted on 12/04/2009 2:08:46 PM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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To: ColdWater

http://www.evolutionnews.org/2006/03/americans_overwhelmingly_suppo.html

Headline: “Americans Overwhelmingly Support Teaching Scientific Challenges to Darwinian Evolution, Zogby Poll Shows” From March 2006.

http://www.discovery.org/scripts/viewDB/filesDB-download.php?command=download&id=719

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Free Republic Poll on Evolution
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/1706571/posts?page=63#63

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Creationism makes a comeback in US
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1856224/posts

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Teaching creation and evolution in schools
Solid research reveals American beliefs
http://www.answersingenesis.org/tj/v13/i2/teaching.asp

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Survey Finds Support Is Strong For Teaching 2 Origin Theories
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B07E4D9143BF932A25750C0A9669C8B63

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Public Divided on Origins of Life
http://people-press.org/report/254/religion-a-strength-and-weakness-for-both-parties

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Americans Believe in Jesus, Poll Says (creation poll results included)
http://derekgulbranson.com/2005/01/17/americans-believe-in-jesus/
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Darwin’s Birthday Poll: Fewer Than 4 in 10 Believe in Evolution
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2184026/posts


458 posted on 12/04/2009 2:09:21 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
"And what kind of level of tolerance is demonstrated by those who keep demanding that FR should be run the way they think it should and anything they disagree with *Belongs in religion*?"

Oh, I get it. The reason you don't answer questions is because your receiver can't operate when your transmitter is firing. It's probably because of that major malfunction between your keyboard and the chair.

459 posted on 12/04/2009 2:09:58 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: metmom
And what kind of level of tolerance is demonstrated by those who keep demanding that FR should be run the way they think it should and anything they disagree with *Belongs in religion*?

The 'intolerant' here repeatedly say our thoughts shouldn't be on this topic thread. We welcome it in News/Activism. Just don't be hypocritical. If you don't want the discussion, take your thread to RELIGION.

460 posted on 12/04/2009 2:11:05 PM PST by ColdWater ("The theory of evolution really has no bearing on what I'm trying to accomplish with FR anyway. ")
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