Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Calif-ornery (California is stealing from its residents)
The Tribune-Review, Pittsburgh, Pa. ^ | 2009-11-13 | Donald J. Boudreaux

Posted on 11/14/2009 3:51:08 PM PST by rabscuttle385

On Nov. 1, the government of the state of California began withholding from workers' paychecks 10 percent more than what it had been withholding.

The Los Angeles Times described this move -- prompted by California's fiscal calamity -- as "a forced, interest-free loan" from taxpayers to the government. The Times explained to its California readers that "You'll be repaid any extra withholding in April. Those who would receive a refund anyway will receive a larger one, and those who owe taxes will owe less."

The ostensible purpose of withholding is to better ensure that taxpayers actually pay the taxes they owe. Governments fear that without withholding, too many taxpayers won't have enough to pay their full tax bills.

Regardless of the merits or demerits of this justification for withholding, California's government is now using withholding for a quite different purpose: to extract a forced loan.

Put more plainly, California's government has become a blatant thief.

(Excerpt) Read more at pittsburghlive.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: biggovernment; calbudget; california; californiademocrats; californiagovernment; californiapolitics; californiataxpayers; caltaxes; democrats; goldenstate; interestfreeloan; robbery; sacramento; schwarzenegger; servitude; slavery; taxes; taxpayers; theft; withholding
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-38 last
To: rabscuttle385

It may not spark an outright revolution, but it will certainly spark a mass exodus.


21 posted on 11/14/2009 4:49:06 PM PST by T Lady (The MSM: Pravda West)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Ted Grant

They are taking 10% more tax. I under withhold any way, it’s about $5.00 a month more on an annual gross salary of $50k (for me).


22 posted on 11/14/2009 4:51:22 PM PST by jttpwalsh
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: All

I wonder how many long-suffering Californians will find this to be the final straw, and decide to walk away from their (probably under water) mortgage and start over again in Arizona or Texas? This exodus has been going on for years, and California’s impending bankruptcy is going to trigger a massive flood of people bailing on the state. Bankruptcy is not a matter of if, but when, at this point.


23 posted on 11/14/2009 4:56:16 PM PST by Spartan79
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: jttpwalsh

That’s what I figured, thanks.


24 posted on 11/14/2009 4:58:38 PM PST by Ted Grant
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: Ted Grant

Sure. I hope your question doesn’t give the DEMOniCRATS any ideas ;)


25 posted on 11/14/2009 5:05:43 PM PST by jttpwalsh
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: rabscuttle385

Two years ago, when I flew into Sacramento on business, i thought I went through a time-warp and landed in fascist Germany. I checked out property I was interested in and discovered some snot-nose nazi bureaucrat in the county had more control over the property than me.

I have never, in America, seen a more cowed population than in CA. Most California residents are slaves and happy about it.


26 posted on 11/14/2009 6:16:14 PM PST by sergeantdave (obuma is the anti-Lincoln, trying to re-establish slavery)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: rabscuttle385

Thanks for the ping, rabs! Great article!


27 posted on 11/14/2009 7:00:45 PM PST by Bokababe (Save Christian Kosovo! http://www.savekosovo.org)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: rabscuttle385

We need to repeal the 1943 law that established payroll tax withholding.

We can protest all we’d like about the unfairness of the income tax system and starving the beast by cutting off its money supply — but it won’t matter if we still have withholding. We can refuse to file and the feds will still smile because they’ve already got our money, whether we file our income taxes or not. (And all that money amounts to an interest-free loan we make to the government, by the way.)

Do away with the tax withholding laws then every April 15 we will simply write Uncle Sam a check for all the taxes we owe. Really ... we will!


28 posted on 11/14/2009 7:19:08 PM PST by DNME (We are now under a state of national emergency (for H1N1) so Katie bar the door!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Ted Grant

10% more tax is withheld. If they were taking out $100 in state taxes, now they would take out $110.

Bill O’Reilly got it wrong over and over and over on one of his shows last week. He thought your take-home pay would go down by 10%.


29 posted on 11/14/2009 7:47:50 PM PST by jiggyboy (Ten per cent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: DNME
We need to repeal the 1943 law that established payroll tax withholding.

bttt

30 posted on 11/14/2009 8:40:41 PM PST by rabscuttle385 (Purge the RINOs! * http://restoretheconstitution.ning.com/)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: jiggyboy

i just compared my withholding from June 15, 2009 to my November 15, 2009 pay statement (same salary). June $47.60 and November $70.27. Seems a bit more than 10%. And everything remains the same over this time period. All Californians should check their pay stubs this pay period.


31 posted on 11/14/2009 11:50:04 PM PST by kmiller1k (remain calm)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: rabscuttle385; Abathar; Abcdefg; Abram; Abundy; akatel; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Alexander Rubin; ..



Libertarian ping! Click here to get added or here to be removed or post a message here!
(View past Libertarian pings here)
32 posted on 11/17/2009 7:31:38 AM PST by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: bamahead; stephenjohnbanker
Californians created the Frankenstein monster, and it'll have to be Californians who kill it.

Aren'tcha ever glad you left, steph? LOL

33 posted on 11/17/2009 7:36:42 AM PST by Landru (Forget the pebble Grasshopper, just leave.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: Landru; bamahead

“Californians created the Frankenstein monster, and it’ll have to be Californians who kill it.

Aren’tcha ever glad you left, steph? LOL “

Yep. Three years ago, I saw that it was hopeless.


34 posted on 11/17/2009 7:55:17 AM PST by stephenjohnbanker (Support our troops, and vote out the RINO's!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]

To: bamahead

Thanks for the ping.


35 posted on 11/17/2009 12:44:44 PM PST by GOPJ (ObamaCare - slush fund scam that would make Bernie Madoff blush.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: stephenjohnbanker; Landru

I’m actually amazed there hasn’t been a mass-exodus from CA yet. It isn’t taking New Yorkers very long to flee oppressive taxation.


36 posted on 11/17/2009 2:16:09 PM PST by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: bamahead; stephenjohnbanker
"I’m actually amazed there hasn’t been a mass-exodus from CA yet. It isn’t taking New Yorkers very long to flee oppressive taxation."

That's a good observation, bama.
Had an interesting conversation, here, with a New Yorker on that very subject of leaving. Lemme tell you what he'd told me.

He said more people would leave, IF, they could sell their homes.
Makes sense; moreover, bet'cha there're thousands of trapped Californians facing the same obstacle. ;^)

Now the well heeled are another matter, they're goneski like *yesterday*. LOL

37 posted on 11/17/2009 2:48:07 PM PST by Landru (Forget the pebble Grasshopper, just leave.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: bamahead

There are still high tech jobs here and a lot of (former) H1Bs who believe that it is Governor Reagan’s California.


38 posted on 11/17/2009 6:55:22 PM PST by altair (I want him to fail)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-2021-38 last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson