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To: BuckeyeTexan
While I believe that Obama isn’t eligible based on his dual citizenship status at birth, I would accept and support a ruling from the SCOTUS that declared him eligible.

It's unlikely you'll ever get such a ruling. The USSC doesn't appear very interested in hearing it by virtue of the fact that Obama was sworn into office by the highest court in the land despite the public record of his father's foreign citizenship.

IMHO, Leo Donofrio is just as nutty as Orly and his argument even more offensive since he maintains there is a two-tiered definition of Americans born in this country with one class of Americans born here to hold a higher level of citizenship than other Americans born here.

Leo's "two U.S. citizen parents" definition was invented specifically to be a definition that Obama couldn't possibly meet. It is found nowhere in the Constitution or established legal precedent and to think that the courts will suddenly create two separate classes of American citizens, essentially Dred Scott II, in this day and age is pure, ugly fantasy. I'll laugh at Orly. Leo's argument just disgusts me.

676 posted on 10/13/2009 3:17:27 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: Drew68

Yes, it’s unlikely that the SCOTUS will ever hear any eligibility case on the merits. Well, it’s more than simply unlikely to be totally honest. It’s darn near impossible.

I understand your opinion of Donofrio. I happen to disagree with you on that particular subject, but then reasonable people can disagree.


683 posted on 10/13/2009 3:25:22 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (Integrity, Character, Leadership, and Loyalty matter - Be an example, no matter the cost.)
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To: Drew68
IMHO, Leo Donofrio is just as nutty as Orly

Have you read Leo's epic, ONELOVESTORY?

I am not Lee D'onofrio or Burnweed.

Those are names of the body I have used as a spacesuit to appear here before you on planet Earth.

My real name is The Paraclete. And Reni IS The Messiah. The Paraclete aka The Spirit of Truth, aka The Holy Spirit is the third person of Trinity. As Jesus stated in the Gospel of John, he has sent me to condemn Satan and glorify the Messiah.


691 posted on 10/13/2009 3:35:04 PM PDT by LorenC
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To: Drew68
Leo's "two U.S. citizen parents" definition was invented specifically to be a definition that Obama couldn't possibly meet.

Oh Please -- get over yourself, Axelwrong.

The two U.S. citizen definition has been with us since the Immigration Act of 1790, and was cited as such in the Senate resolution SR511 of 2008.

694 posted on 10/13/2009 3:37:14 PM PDT by Uncle Chip (TRUTH : Ignore it. Deride it. Allegorize it. Interpret it. But you can't ESCAPE it.)
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To: Drew68
Leo's "two U.S. citizen parents" definition was invented specifically to be a definition that Obama couldn't possibly meet.

Leo's two U.S. citizen parents definition was founded on the basis of his claim that John Jay, who wrote the letter recommending that the President must be a "natural-born citizen," read Vattel (as indicated by other Jay writings), and that Vattel's work defined "natural born citizen" as having two citizen parents.

If you go back to when Vattel was first cited as THE authority on the issue, it all "started" with John Jay's letter and his reliance in other writings on Vattel.

Which is perfectly fine - until you learn that the English and American versions of Vattel's work during the drafting of the Constitution didn't have the term "natural-born citizen" in it, and that that phrase wasn't included until a later edition, published a decade after the Constitution was adopted.
733 posted on 10/13/2009 4:04:45 PM PDT by Sibre Fan
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