Sorry, real life intruded and sucked up my time. I’ll look at what you posted and see if a response is needed.
So far I’ve found the discussion rather silly and frustrating. It shouldn’t have been a big deal to postulate that a thing is, whether someone documents it or not. But some birthers seem to be unable to concede even a basic fundamental point of reality if they think it might be used to argue against them. Absurd.
It wasn’t my intent to spend much time on this tiny point. The intent was to move on quickly to the next. If even this little fundamental uncontroversial thing can’t be agreed on then it sure looks like trying to reason with certain birthers has to go out the window.
Sounds like the premise:
if a tree falls in the forest, and
no one hears it, did it fall ?
I have no clue what such an obscure
premise as the “it is what it is” view
bears in regard to one’s age or a birth
certificate.
One’s birth certificate is a tangible, vital
legally recorded document, signifying important
data .. the proof of one’s arrival on earth, his
parentage, etc. and one which plays a mandatory
and significant verification for several key
occasions in a person’s life .. wherein which
the document must be shown to a govt. official.
Just telling the DMV guy you’re 16 and legal
to take the driving test and “it is what it
is” isn’t going to wash.
And by the way, the derision and contempt with
which you toss around the term ‘birthers’ because
some don’t accept your views at face value just
because you said so doesn’t wear well on one so
profuse in lawyerly and scholarly postings as you.
We’re all in a new ballpark here, seeking information,
theorizing, and there is a possibility of a case of
first impression, so there are no perfect experts...
period.
No one, not even one so lawyerly, knows what the
outcome will be.