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U.S. Can’t Trace Foreign Visitors on Expired Visa [Approx. 3 Million Visitors Unaccounted For!]
NYTimes ^ | October 11th 2009

Posted on 10/11/2009 10:57:54 PM PDT by Steelfish

U.S. Can’t Trace Foreign Visitors on Expired Visas

By JAMES C. McKINLEY Jr. and JULIA PRESTON October 11, 2009

DALLAS — Eight years after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks and despite repeated mandates from Congress, the United States still has no reliable system for verifying that foreign visitors have left the country.

Hosam Maher Husein Smadi entered the United States legally, but then overstayed his visa. [Pic in URL]

New concern was focused on that security loophole last week, when Hosam Maher Husein Smadi, a 19-year-old Jordanian who had overstayed his tourist visa, was accused in court of plotting to blow up a Dallas skyscraper.

Last year alone, 2.9 million foreign visitors on temporary visas like Mr. Smadi’s checked in to the country but never officially checked out, immigration officials said. While officials say they have no way to confirm it, they suspect that several hundred thousand of them overstayed their visas.

Over all, the officials said, about 40 percent of the estimated 11 million illegal immigrants in the United States came on legal visas and overstayed.

Mr. Smadi’s case has brought renewed calls from both parties in Congress for Department of Homeland Security officials to complete a universal electronic exit monitoring system.

Representative Lamar Smith of Texas, the senior Republican on the House Judiciary Committee, said the Smadi case “points to a real need for an entry and exit system if we are serious about reducing illegal immigration.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; bhostatedept; expiredvisas; illegals; immigrantlist
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To: Steelfish

Yea... It’d be nearly impossible to track people whose source of wealth is based offshore. That would require a device that could search for transactions and associate them with locations. How ever could such a task be accomplished

maybe they can borrow that fancy machine device that tracked all that money made by the evil rich and stashed in those Swiss bank accounts


21 posted on 10/12/2009 4:20:09 AM PDT by sten
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To: pepsionice

Your “cure” is worse than the disease. National ID my ass.


22 posted on 10/12/2009 4:22:56 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog ( The Hog of Steel)
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To: Big Giant Head
Yeah...Brits are a "special" group in the US.
I lived in socali (HB in Orange County - NOT L.A) for about 13 years. I bet I met 25 or 30 Brits/Irish/Scots who were living and working there and were technically illegal.
They knew they were breaking the law, their employers knew they were illegal...but they were not 'dark skinned Mehicans" they went under the radar.
And to a person, they attributed the ease of employment to their accent. Most Americans go ga-ga over a Brit accent...or an Irish one...Scottish not so much. No one really can under stand a full brogue Scottish accent...even other Scots. (*disclaimer - both my parents were immigrants, legal, from Scotland).
So for some, its made a lot easier because they can adapt and dissolve into the culture.
Trivia - most of the bathroom tile and bathroom re-modeling work being done in the L.A. area is, or at least was in 2004, by sub-contracted illegal Irish workers. And they do/did a darn fine job.
Also, Brit/Irish bartenders are always in big demand. Again, Scots inability to be understood, especially around whisky, works against them.
23 posted on 10/12/2009 4:27:57 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus)
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To: pepsionice
Finally...put a bounty on each one of these guys who overstay and fail to request a new visa....say $3k in cash to turn the guy in and then accept no reasoning for helping the guy ever again. If you got 100,000 bounty hunters on the streets of the US...we’d eventually fix the problem.

That's always been my suggestion....except I would require that high-risk individuals post a $10K bond which would provide for a more substantial fee for the bounty hunter and cover administrative costs.

24 posted on 10/12/2009 5:06:29 AM PDT by Ben Hecks
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To: Steelfish
This is not news. It has been a problem for years. The NYSlimes just found out?
25 posted on 10/12/2009 5:09:37 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Beneath this mask there is an idea, Mr. Creedy, and ideas are bulletproof. V for victory)
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To: 1_Inch_Group; 2sheep; 2Trievers; 3AngelaD; 3pools; 3rdcanyon; 4Freedom; 4ourprogeny; 7.62 x 51mm; ..

ping


26 posted on 10/12/2009 9:03:48 AM PDT by gubamyster
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To: gubamyster

They still haven’t fixed the problem that arose after 9/11 when they discovered thousands of people in the Country with expired student VISAs that they could not find?

INS looks to be jockeying with the post office for the worst run organization in the Federal Government.


27 posted on 10/12/2009 11:35:03 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
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To: paudio

9/11 showed the failure of the student visa program and wouldn’t be shocked if it was still not fixed. When they drop out of school no one was tracking them. After the OU ‘lone suicide bomber’ case, it doesn’t look like they are still tracked if they drop out of school.

Has to be a better way because the current way is a farce.


28 posted on 10/12/2009 11:39:13 AM PDT by PhiKapMom (Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
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To: PhiKapMom
INS

No such agency exists!

29 posted on 10/12/2009 12:07:10 PM PDT by Marine Inspector (I am an Oath Keeper! www.oathkeepers.net)
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To: PhiKapMom

“When they drop out of school no one was tracking them.”

Yes they are!


30 posted on 10/12/2009 12:13:12 PM PDT by Marine Inspector (I am an Oath Keeper! www.oathkeepers.net)
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To: Steelfish

No problem. While the White HOuse is doing the census.......


31 posted on 10/12/2009 12:59:28 PM PDT by wolfcreek (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lsd7DGqVSIc)
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