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To: pissant

The Okubo quotes are toward the end of the article:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/jul/28/worldnetdaily/birthers-claim-gibbs-lied-when-he-said-obamas-birt/

Also, from the June 6, 2009 edition of the Honolulu Star-Bulliten:
Born identity
Birth certificate styles adjust to fit times and regulations
By June Watanabe
POSTED: 01:30 a.m. HST, Jun 06, 2009

Question: What is the state’s policy for issuing a “Certification of Live Birth” versus a “Certificate of Live Birth”? My first, second and fourth children received certificates, but my third and fifth children received certifications. Why the difference? The certificate contains more information, such as the name of hospital, certifier’s name and title; attendant’s name and title, etc. The certification has only the child’s name, date and time of birth, sex, city/island/county of birth, mother’s maiden name, mother’s race, father’s name and father’s race. Why doesn’t the state just issue certificates? When did it stop issuing certificates? Is it possible to obtain certificates for my third and fifth children?

Answer: No, you can’t obtain a “certificate of live birth” anymore.

The state Department of Health no longer issues copies of paper birth certificates as was done in the past, said spokeswoman Janice Okubo.

The department only issues “certifications” of live births, and that is the “official birth certificate” issued by the state of Hawaii, she said.

And, it’s only available in electronic form.

Okubo explained that the Health Department went paperless in 2001.

“At that time, all information for births from 1908 (on) was put into electronic files for consistent reporting,” she said.

Information about births is transferred electronically from hospitals to the department.

“The electronic record of the birth is what (the Health Department) now keeps on file in order to provide same-day certified copies at our help window for most requests,” Okubo said.

Asked for more information about the short-form versus long-form birth documents, Okubo said the Health Department “does not have a short-form or long-form certificate.”

“The birth certificate form has been modified over the years and decades to conform to national standards and models,” she said.

Okubo also emphasized the certification form “contains all the information needed by all federal government agencies for transactions requiring a birth certificate.”

She added that the U.S. Supreme Court has recognized the state’s current certification of live birth “as an official birth certificate meeting all federal and other requirements.”

The issue of what constitutes an official Hawaii birth certificate received national attention during last year’s presidential campaign. Those who doubted Barack Obama’s American citizenship called the copy of the Hawaii birth document posted on his campaign Web site a fake.

Asked about that document, Okubo said, “This is the same certified copy everyone receives when they request a birth certificate.”

We found a discussion of “the truth about Obama’s birth certificate” on the Web site FactCheck.org — www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html.

The organization describes itself as “a nonpartisan, nonprofit ‘consumer advocate’ for voters that aims to reduce the level of deception and confusion in U.S. politics.”

It says a “certification of live birth” is, in fact, a short-form official birth certificate. Information included in the document might differ from state to state.

http://www.starbulletin.com/columnists/kokualine/20090606_kokua_line.html


340 posted on 09/29/2009 11:26:33 AM PDT by jamese777
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To: jamese777; pissant
The issue of what constitutes an official Hawaii birth certificate received national attention during last year’s presidential campaign. Those who doubted Barack Obama’s American citizenship called the copy of the Hawaii birth document posted on his campaign Web site a fake.

Asked about that document, Okubo said, “This is the same certified copy everyone receives when they request a birth certificate.”

The same Okubo? Really? Tsk Tsk... You are misleading the reader again Okubo.

From my article snippet: "In response to a direct question from WND, the Hawaii Department of Health refused to authenticate either of the two versions of President Obama's short-form Certificate of Live Birth, or COLB, posted online – neither the image produced by the Obama campaign nor the images released by FactCheck.org. "

Hawaii refuses to verify president's online COLBs Officials mum on images released by Obama's campaign, FactCheck.org

341 posted on 09/29/2009 12:11:39 PM PDT by Red Steel
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To: jamese777

She’s NOT saying Obama’s is correct. SHe’s saying this is the type people receive. There are other quotes more pertinent.

Such as:

“I don’t know that it’s possible for us to even say beyond a doubt what the image on the site represents.”


357 posted on 09/29/2009 8:41:16 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: jamese777

You can pick up a phone and call HI Vital Records and find out that the ‘journalist’ is absolutely wrong. Vital Records will supply a photostatic copy of the original Certificate of Live Birth, if a legally connected source requests it and it is actually in the paper documents vault/storage, but it takes weeks to get it from the vaults, as explained to me when I called and asked after Jon Klein tried to tell his lie and force it out of Lou Dobbs’ mouth.


360 posted on 09/29/2009 8:56:08 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Dems, believing they cannot be deceived, it is impossible to convince them when they are deceived.)
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