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'Totally Strange' Hurdia a Hurdle for Evolution
ICR ^ | September 9, 2009 | Brian Thomas, M.S.

Posted on 09/09/2009 10:05:48 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts

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To: ColdWater
I wish I understood this alliance between the YEC'ers and the ID'ers who are trying to remove all references to God in our society and replace it with 'Intelligent Designer'. The only way to combat that is to declare your faith in God as the Intelligent Designer.

And then you'd declare a *gotcha* that ID is just a way of sneaking creation in.

You guys need to decide what it is you think about ID. When it suits your purposes, it's backdoor creationism. Other times, it's trying to remove God from society.

Whatever is most convenient to use against creationists is what your current definition of an IDer is.

That's why nobody is playing your game.

261 posted on 09/09/2009 9:46:04 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: ColdWater; CottShop

Why do evos complain about quote mining when they do it themselves? Why condemn in creationists the very thing evos do themselves?

Actually, all your post does is demonstrate that IDers have more in common with evolutionists than they do with creationists.


262 posted on 09/09/2009 9:49:33 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: FormerRep; Buck W.; GodGunsGuts

3 pounds of cheese!

That ought to clog your arteries!!

I can hardly wait!


263 posted on 09/09/2009 9:51:13 PM PDT by airborne (Don't let history record that, when faced with evil, you did nothing!)
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To: count-your-change

You speak for God, and say he doesn’t use evolution. Ok, I trust you. Lol.


264 posted on 09/09/2009 9:52:29 PM PDT by Tax Government
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To: metmom

“And then you’d declare a *gotcha* that ID is just a way of sneaking creation in.”

It is! Evolution and Christianity are perfectly compatible without the need to introduce more pseudoscience.


265 posted on 09/09/2009 9:57:46 PM PDT by Buck W. (The President of the United States IS named Schickelgruber...)
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To: Buck W.
YOU JUST DID!

Where? Which post?

266 posted on 09/09/2009 10:09:21 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: CottShop

Wow. You should be ashamed of yourself. That site is vile.


267 posted on 09/09/2009 10:09:48 PM PDT by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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To: Buck W.

Still waiting for those links that show where I refer to Catholicism with disdain and contempt.....

They should be right there in my posting history. Find them and post them or own the lie.


268 posted on 09/09/2009 10:10:40 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom
So they're not really FAITHFULLY following Catholic doctrine.

No big deal.

I see.

You see what, exactly?

269 posted on 09/09/2009 10:15:44 PM PDT by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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To: metmom

The purpose of this book is to help restore traditional Catholic theology on origins to its rightful place in the belief of Catholics. The traditional teaching of the Church on Creation, the Fall, and the Great Flood and its aftermath is clearly presented in the form of sixteen doctrines abstracted from the text of Genesis 1-11. The doctrines are defended on theological, philosophical and scientific grounds from assaults made on them from the sectors of biblical criticism and scientism. The author attempts to present a story of origins that evokes true and vivid images of the creation of the world and the primal history of the human species. Accurate, thorough and readable answers are given to many questions about origins that perplex the modern Catholic. The exposition is kept as non-technical as possible so that the book will be accessible to everyone. Not everyone will be able to understand everything that is presented, but every reader will find enough to set his thinking straight and to nourish his Catholic faith.

Foreword by Most. Rev. Robert Francis Vasa, Bishop of Baker

About the Author

Fr. Victor Warkulwiz has a Ph.D. in physics from Temple University, an M. Div. from Mt. St. Mary’s Seminary, and an M.A. in theology from Holy Apostles Seminary. He has taught courses in literature, mathematics, and physics at Holy Apostles Seminary and courses in philosophy and religion at the Franciscan Friars of Mary Immaculate scholasticate. He is a member of the Missionary Priests of the Blessed Sacrament and National Director of the Apostolate for Perpetual Adoration in the United States.

http://www.amazon.com/Doctrines-Genesis-1-11-Compendium-Traditional/dp/0595452434/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1252560481&sr=8-1


270 posted on 09/09/2009 10:29:41 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical

Truth hurts huh?


271 posted on 09/09/2009 10:52:26 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: Ira_Louvin

[[Can’t cut it outside of the echo chamber without your cheerleaders.]]

Lol- you’re the one whining and trying to get all of us to go to that site- sorry- but I have better thigns to do than argue with a bunch of Fark-children all day- Are you perhaps a Fark Child Ira? Because you certainly do attempt the same childish CRAP that htey pull-


272 posted on 09/09/2009 10:56:26 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: Ira_Louvin

[[Well then it should be easy enough to go in and utterly destroy their arguments]]

Oooooh- look mommy- Ira is ‘challenging me’ eeeeeek- Sorry- go play with your kiddie friends at Fark Ira- I have no desire stepping into that putrid swamp- they can all beleive whatever they want to- I could care less- the facts speak for themselves- and IF they care to step outside their playground- they can see the facts for themselves- As I mentioend, I have no desire attendign to the obsessiosn of kids hell bent on insulting Christians and goign round and round with their ‘nuh-uhs’ all day- I get enough of that from peopel liek you here

[[You say you can send evo’s away crying from a debate with you. Well do it.]]

GGG DID- that’s why they ran to sites liek Fark/Darwin Central/DU to throw their little pity parties- which incidentl;y is ALL that that thread was that you pointed to- go cry along with htem if you like- Not interested in in thgeir petty behavior- but if you’re so horny about them- go ye yonder and roll around in the sewer with em-

and yes,m it IS about you- Al lyou want is to see Creationsits’ riped to shreds’ with nothign more substantial than petty vile insults- it wouldn’t matter one iota that their arguments LACK any scientific credibility to you- all that would matter is that Creationists are insulted- degraded and maligned i n your eyes! you’re runnign out of support here to do that- so you’re baiting us to go into that swamp for NO other reason- your ‘challenge’ is childish- We DID send htem runniong away crying- that’s why they flocked to htose swamps- to htrow one big pity party

Have a nice day


273 posted on 09/09/2009 11:06:30 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: Buck W.

[[FR is, unfortunately, populated by a subculture of Catholic-hating sleaze. You are a bigot.
]]

Awwww- what’s hte matter Buck- the FACTS about Catholocism hurt too much? WE aren’t the ones that have formulated the catholic edicts- the CATHOLICS are- IF you have a problem- bring it up with the churhc of catholicism- not me- I’m tired of your whining about this issue- Those are the FACTS- read them and weep (apparently you’re not goign to stop weeping)


274 posted on 09/09/2009 11:08:26 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical

[[Wow. You should be ashamed of yourself. That site is vile.]]

Lol- Those are the FACTS about Catholicism Hahahaha- whatever else that site espouses I haven’t the foggiest idea- nor woudl anythign else they say discredit those basic FACTS about Catholicism- so no- I’m hardly ‘ashamed’ of presentign the FACTS- Regardless of the site they come from- FACTS are FACTS- either stick to the issues/FACTS that were stated, discuss those, or play by yourself-


275 posted on 09/09/2009 11:14:35 PM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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To: CottShop
Haven't these evo-atheists ever heard of the Reformation? I mean, duh! And besides, it's more than just a little disingenuous of them to champion the Catholic Church, seeing how they hate them in every respect except one. And let's not forget the “New Atheists” who hate the Catholic Church despite huge concessions to the Temple of Darwin.
276 posted on 09/09/2009 11:36:41 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts; CottShop; All

Okay, that’s two. Anyone else want to applaud CottShop for posting his anti-Catholic slander? Go ahead, you know you want to—get it out, you’ll feel better.


277 posted on 09/09/2009 11:57:15 PM PDT by Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
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To: Tax Government
You go from a miss to a trifecta of error!
He speaks for Himself in the Bible, He says the first humans, Adam and Eve, were special creations, not evolved from animals and it's not trust in me that is the question but in His Word. The Lol is of no matter.

But I welcome anything you can point to in His Word that indicates God evolved life.

278 posted on 09/10/2009 12:04:22 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical; CottShop

Is this somehow news to you? Are you really so clueless as to not be aware of the basic differences between Protestant and Catholic theology?

That of course does not change the fact that the historic position of the Catholic Church is young earth creationism.


279 posted on 09/10/2009 12:22:35 AM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: Ha Ha Thats Very Logical
I think that's your “Inner Eggplant” speaking to you and telling you that “Saint Ha Ha, Defender of the Faith” is really difficult to take seriously and that “In Hoc Signo Vinces” isn't Latin for “Just Say Cheese”.
280 posted on 09/10/2009 12:57:58 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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