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New Photos Released From Flyover Blunder : The Pentagon also released the flight manifest
NBC NewYork.com ^
| 7/31/2009
| VICTORIA CAVALIERE
Posted on 07/31/2009 9:14:09 PM PDT by mojitojoe
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To: mojitojoe
If only AF personnel were on board why were the enlisted who take care of passengers on board? I think they redacted the names of AF personnel especially enlisted because it would show these are the aides that serve the food/drinks to the passengers.
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posted on
07/31/2009 9:43:41 PM PDT
by
PhiKapMom
(Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn/Rubio - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
To: hattend
I think you are correct about donors. I would bet the reason for redacting the stewards was because other members of the AF would know who they are and start questioning why they were on board if there were no passengers. That is my question. From the ranks listed, bet they were the stewards to serve food and drinks. There is a lot of them listed. You would never have that many enlisted unless people are on board other then the crew.
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posted on
07/31/2009 9:46:03 PM PDT
by
PhiKapMom
(Mary Fallin - OK Gov/Coburn/Rubio - Senate 2010 ! Take Back the House/Senate! Stop ZERO!)
To: Eagles6; mojitojoe
We have adolescents with a chip on their shoulders in charge. I must have had too much gin. At first I thought you wrote "a chimp on their shoulders".
To: Eagles6
"We have adolescents with a chip on their shoulders in charge. "
Truer words have never been spoken....
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posted on
07/31/2009 9:48:36 PM PDT
by
FrankR
(We are only enslaved to the extent of charity we receive....INCUMBENTS OUT!!!)
To: mojitojoe
Here's a picture of "Air Force Whatever", on its way to Boston to collect the Cop and the Break-In Guy, for the Beer Garden visit with Zer0 and Plugs.
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posted on
07/31/2009 9:50:07 PM PDT
by
jws3sticks
(Sarah Palin forever!)
To: 50cal Smokepole; mojitojoe
The only released document available from the referenced sources is FLIGHT AUTHORIZATION, not a manifest listing passengers.
(download the pdf and if necessary the free Adobe Acrobat reader)
The redacted names are all USAF flight personnel, only the commanding officer, Col. S. M. Turner is mentioned by name.
The 24 April 2009 flight had Mission designation AO133 with call sign Venus 01
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posted on
07/31/2009 9:52:17 PM PDT
by
Covenantor
("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
To: mojitojoe
Something looks funny with that photo.
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posted on
07/31/2009 9:53:48 PM PDT
by
2CAVTrooper
(For those who have had to fight for it, freedom has a flavor the protected shall never know.)
To: exit82
I also thought there was a Redtail chase plane. There were two fighters, F-16s, but the only one in the pictures does not have a red tail. The Redtail must have been the photo plane, then.
Is the F-16 in the picture a single-seater, or a two-seater. If a two-seater, it's the photoplane. The "Redtail" chase plane was definitely a one-seater. IIRC, the Alabama ANG has never explained why one of their airplanes was sent up North to chase AF1.
To: Rebelbase; CheneyChick
Wheres the flight manifest? Looks like it may have been the photo shoot it was originally reported as.
Flight manifest
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posted on
07/31/2009 9:58:06 PM PDT
by
fso301
To: Rebelbase
The flight manifest looks like it was done on one of those old mimeograph machines.
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posted on
07/31/2009 10:01:25 PM PDT
by
2CAVTrooper
(For those who have had to fight for it, freedom has a flavor the protected shall never know.)
To: Covenantor
You are right it is just the Flight Authorization. So we still do not have the manifest?
To: Irish Eyes
“The redacted manifest makes no sense to me . Looked at it and do not understand the reason to make the redactions.”
I could understand redacting the security clearances which in this case they did not.
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posted on
07/31/2009 10:06:30 PM PDT
by
2CAVTrooper
(For those who have had to fight for it, freedom has a flavor the protected shall never know.)
To: Covenantor
Anyone know what the designations for crew position mean? Especially “MEGP”.
The “manifest” tells us the USAF crew.
Why would an unattended flight require such a large crew?
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posted on
07/31/2009 10:09:10 PM PDT
by
exit82
(Sarah Palin is President No. 45. Get behind her, GOP, or get out of the way.)
To: exit82
The crew includes aircraft maintenance folks. They always ride in case something needs fixing.
To: exit82
Anyone know what the designations for crew position mean? Especially MEGPMEGP is Mission Essential Ground Personnel.
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posted on
07/31/2009 10:18:33 PM PDT
by
Covenantor
("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
To: Jet Jaguar
JJ, I can understand about maintenance folks.
But this is a 747.
How many people does it take to fly an empty 747?
Two pilots, a navigator, and a techie? There’s only so much you can fix inside a plane.
Seems like a big crew and some high ranks for an unattended flight to me.
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posted on
07/31/2009 10:20:05 PM PDT
by
exit82
(Sarah Palin is President No. 45. Get behind her, GOP, or get out of the way.)
To: Covenantor
Thanks, Covenantor.
What would these folks be doing on the flight? Maintenance types, admin types, stewards?
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posted on
07/31/2009 10:23:19 PM PDT
by
exit82
(Sarah Palin is President No. 45. Get behind her, GOP, or get out of the way.)
To: exit82
They take more than a flying crewchief.
But, I would imagine that some civvies were on the flight. (speculation only)
To: jws3sticks; mojitojoe
Here's a picture of "Air Force Whatever" I think the worst thing about that picture is that unattractive-looking white building that has been added to the Statue of Liberty. I winder if that has something to do with post-9/11 security.
To: hattend
The call sign for the flight was ‘Venus01’.
Men are from Mars, Women are from Venus!
Was the #1 Woman on board?
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