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Kennedy: Let's Ration Health Care (Looks like Mary Jo's Killer is killing Obamacare)
weekly standard ^ | 7/20/09 | William Kristol

Posted on 07/20/2009 6:02:12 AM PDT by bestintxas

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To: bestintxas

Congressman John Fleming introduced HR 615 to make it mandatory that any Congress person who votes FOR Obama’s health care plan has to resign from the Federal Health Care Program and sign up on Obama’s government health care plan.

No URL, my computer is balking, but it IS out there.


41 posted on 07/20/2009 8:40:24 AM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (I believe in CHOICE: Let the Fetus decide whether to be born or to spontaneously abort. FETAL CHOICE)
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To: Russ

“I doubt that Kennedy had much input into this article. From what I have read he’s in such bad shape that writing an article is the last thing he could do.”

Oh crap!!!! Do you know what this means?

A couple of weeks ago it was all about Michelle Jackson for a zillion days.

This past weekend it was all about Cronkite forever and ever and still going on.

Now it is going to be Kenndy for a zillion years.

And before we can catch our breath, it is going to be Byrd.

I wish Kennedy would have gone out on Mary Jo Kopechne’s anniversary. There would have been a lot of Justice to that.


42 posted on 07/20/2009 8:40:53 AM PDT by GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: CaptainAmiigaf

Who will pay the doctor’s malpractice. As I understand it...doctors would be employee’s of the gov’t?


43 posted on 07/20/2009 10:24:30 AM PDT by nikos1121
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Who will pay the doctor’s malpractice. As I understand it...doctors would be employee’s of the gov’t?

Silly rabbit, that is the one thing that ObamaCare deliberately does not change. Lawsuits aplenty under the new system. Probably more than before.

44 posted on 07/20/2009 10:28:22 AM PDT by Gideon7
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To: nikos1121

More specifically, doctors still run their own practices and still get sued as individuals. No govt help at all.


45 posted on 07/20/2009 10:29:44 AM PDT by Gideon7
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So if I order a test and it’s negative, a gov’t third party contractor, working on commission, will say that I should NOT have ordered the test in the first place, since I should have known that it would be negative. And if I don’t order the test, and the patient has a delayed diagnosis, then I get sued.


46 posted on 07/20/2009 10:33:21 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: bestintxas

“His absence was palpable” to Mary Jo when she was SUFFOCATING in that car before she drowned, also!!! Bring on the PALPABILITY!!!


47 posted on 07/20/2009 10:35:35 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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For example, in Medicare today, 18 percent of patients discharged from a hospital are readmitted within 30 days--at a cost of more than $15 billion in 2005. Most of these readmissions are unnecessary, but we don't reward hospitals and doctors for preventing them. By changing that, we'll save billions of dollars while improving the quality of care for patients.

dealt with this issue concerning my mother several yrs. ago.

She had broken her leg (90 y.o. at the time but very lucid and alert).
After the Medicare fixed number of days for that injury she was discharged.

She shouldn't have been as she needed more intensive recovery care but with Medicare it's..

Tough Tacos

I'll bet most of these re-admittance should never have been discharged in the first place.

48 posted on 07/20/2009 10:35:55 AM PDT by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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To: bestintxas
this respected voice on health care

so says; Newsweek Managing Editor Daniel Klaidman


Keep reminding us of why we don't buy Newsweek!

49 posted on 07/20/2009 10:37:04 AM PDT by kcvl
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So they got that all time “winner” schrum involved too. His involvement gives me hope we just my beat this thing back. Why would Americans want to give the government control over 20% of theeconomy? Look what these authoritarian marxists have done to it in 7 months.


50 posted on 07/20/2009 11:09:53 AM PDT by easttennesseejohn
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To: Vinnie

As a nurse, I’d say you’ve nailed it. First off, the Medicare-aged crowd (65-100) is more medically unstable to begin with, due to age.

And for years and years discharge criteria as been too stringent within this age group, with re-admission being the result. I’m actually surprised that the number isn’t larger than 18%.

OtOH, I’ve seen hospital step-down units defraud Medicare by over-stating medical need in order to have their unit census remain high. This was several years ago though, and Medicare has since cracked way down on this sort of thing, which was needed.

Lastly, I’ll only note that not only have I not missed Kennedy’s input on this topic, I find the original author’s adulatory comments about Kennedy and his “respected voice” to be quite laughable.


51 posted on 07/20/2009 11:20:58 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (Our troops DESERVE BETTER than Barack Hussein Obama!!)
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Like everything else the government gets it’s hands on, they make one size fit all.

You can bet that if ZerOcare comes to fruition some snot-nosed GS4 will be dictating who gets what.


52 posted on 07/20/2009 4:01:31 PM PDT by Vinnie (You're Nobody 'Til Somebody Jihads You)
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