I disagree with you, my cousin was paralyzed in a hunting accident and I see no reason why a business should not be made to adhere to the American’s with Disabilities Act...just because you are confined to a wheelchair shouldn’t mean you can’t enjoy a burger.
Seriously... look at the picture in post #7. Should the owner be required to rebuild the “historical” building so that a wheelchair can fit in the building? Besides, there’s a patio out back that people in wheelchairs can use to have their burger.
“I see no reason why a business should not be made”
Not every mom and pop business can afford to. Why should they be forced to close down to all the other customers to accomodate one? This is not freedom.
And a business should not have to shell out hundreds of thousands of dollars just to accomodate one person out of 100 thousand....small shops have had to close because they did not have elevators to reach a small second floor...the few need to adjust themselves to the many, not the other way around
How about having the common sense to have one in a place that can accomodate you?
It would be great if we ALL had our wishes to have the world rebuilt to please us.
Or maybe he could be a bud and have a friend or family member (if he has any,) be a bud to him and run in and get him one at the counter.
An excellent point. I have a cousin who’s blind, and I see no reason why movie studios shouldn’t have to produce movies that she can enjoy. It’s just not fair, is it?
“just because you are confined to a wheelchair shouldn’t mean you can’t enjoy a burger.”
So don’t go there, spend your money another place. I know disabled people who go searching for people to sue.
I am deaf.
Can I count on your support for mandatory closed captioning of all movies and television?
Your cousin can't "enjoy a burger" at one of the tens of thousands of places that have wheel chair access? Gimmie a break. I'm going with the earlier posters on this and betting that this woman is a professional parasite/plaintiff who makes a living off businesses like this.
A business that doesn't want to change to accomodate the business of certain folks ought have that right ... in a Constitutional Republic, which may be the key to the whole lesson of forcing these things, too many no longer believe America is a Constitutional Republic.
A dear friend is a functional quad in a large and heavy electric wheelchair. There are some things she just can't do, but with friends and reasonable cooperation from local businesses, we always find a workaround. If the business does its best, and we still have to use a service elevator or a back door, so what, we all get in and that's what counts. And our friend is the most cheerful and uncomplaining person you could ever meet -- I know disability doesn't make you automatically a saint, but she qualifies. She would never harass anyone -- of course we're all here to raise cain on her behalf, since she would never do it herself. But the reason she has so many good friends and partisans is because she is so good.
I think with a little tiny place like this, the retrofit to accommodate an electric wheelchair would be larger than the whole establishment itself and completely impractical. Carryout is just going to be necessary here, or a picnic at a nearby table if one's available. But for heaven's sake don't get the feds involved over a hamburger shack!
“I disagree with you, my cousin was paralyzed in a hunting accident and I see no reason why a business should not be made to adhere to the American’s with Disabilities Act...just because you are confined to a wheelchair shouldn’t mean you can’t enjoy a burger.”
Then your cousin should risk his/her own hard work and money to open a stellar burger joint that caters to those confined to a wheelchair.
Why should a business pay to accommodate anyone in particular? My business - my rules. What about that do you not understand? If you don’t like it, go somewhere else. DO you think someone has a “right” to a Squeeze with Cheese?
Really?
1. It’s the owner’s property.
2. Nobody is forcing the handicapped (including your cousin) to go into these places. Government buildings - which service the citizenry - sure. Private buildings - no.
Some people want to spend everybody else’s money.
Places like this restaurant find it cost prohibitive, but some whiny gimp comes along and they have to go bankrupt accomodating them or through a lawsuit.
Pure bullshit.
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If you can't climb Mount Everest, whom do you sue? Gotta be somebody.
Once you start the "reductio" on your argument, you get to "absurdem" really fast. Wisdom is that not everyone can do everything. None of us needs to do everything.
And at the same time, without police-state laws like the ADA, "everything" will often find a way to come to you. Do you think nobody wants to sell a burger to a guy in a wheelchair? (Why should everybody have to?) Besides ramps and other devices, which many walk-in businesses would have put in on their own, there are innovations that benefit the wheelchair market along with everyone else. A decade ago, who thought about drive-up windows? Now they're everywhere. No ADA storm-trooper-inspector would have come up with the drive-up window.
With ADA and its absurd, expensive consequences, businesses are killed and countless innovations are never dreamed of.
Are you suggesting that if he showed up there, wanted a burger, and said he might need some help please, that nobody would help him? Some great businesses would be sunk if they have to become wheelchair accessable. Especially small funky places designed in the 1940 or 50s.
So a business that has no room on their lot to provide a proper ramp has no choice but to shut down? To install a proper ramp would extend into their parking lot and violate zoning laws because they then would be below the minimum number of slots required. While I sympathize with your cousin I disagree that a business should be put in the position of providing wheelchair access or closing down. Does your cousin’s “right” to a burger trump the business owners “right” to make said burger?
There are lawyers who do nothing but drive around town looking for ADA ‘issues’ and then go find one of their regular clients in whose name to file the suit. It’s a whole industry unto itself.
Can you really tell a business owner with a tiny business like this that they have to rebuild their building and put themselves into debt for years in order to accommodate one or two customers.
It’s clear from the photo that the building would have to be rebuilt. He would have to close for at least a week and probably a month while the work was being done. From experience, I can say that it would cost over $100k and may subject the owner to further code compliance work that could add a couple hundred thousand extra to the bill. Often once you start working on a property, you lose the grandfather clauses for other things that are not in current compliance.
Is it worth potentially destroying a business for a couple customers?