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Holder: Whites and Ministers will not be protected by proposed hate crimes legislation.
Muffled Oar ^ | June 30, 2009 | Isaac Muzzey

Posted on 07/02/2009 7:43:35 AM PDT by mudblood

Holder: Whites and Ministers will not be protected by proposed hate crimes legislation. Attorney General Eric Holder testified to the Senate Judiciary Committee on June 25 and gave startling testimony that means Christian ministers and whites will not be protected under the hate crimes statute proposed by the Department of Justice. Holder says that the proposed statute would only protect “traditional” victims of hate crimes, and then he goes on to name a series of Democratic Party constituencies.

You can either launch the video here or click the webstream link here to see his testimony for yourself.

Senator Sessions asks Holder about the scope of the protected classes. (Beginning at 58:43 – running through 60:09) Sessions presents a hypothetical where a minister gives a sermon, quotes the Bible about homosexuality and is thereafter attacked by a gay activist because of what the minister said about his religious beliefs and what scripture says about homosexuality.

Holder: “Well the statute would not necessarily cover that. On the other hand, I think the concern that actually has been expressed is if the action was reversed. . . . We are talking about, if in fact the person, we are talking about crimes that have a historic basis. Groups who have been targeted for violence as a result of their skin color, sexual orientation, that is what this legislation is designed to cover. The fact that someone might strike somebody as a result of pure speech, again, . . . we don’t have the indication that somebody was motivated to strike at somebody because they were in one of these protected classes. That would not be covered by the statute.”

Later, Senator Tom Coburn asks Holder if the muslim radical who killed army recruiter Pvt. Long committed a hate crime. Holder’s equivocation was disturbing. “There is a certain element of hate in that, I suppose.” He would suppose. You can see him “suppose” at minute 73:00.

Then Holder goes on to list the only groups intended to be protected by the proposed law. This is racial identity politics taking a sinister turn. Holder explicitly says the proposed law only protects classes “where there is a history” of violence against those groups. “What we are looking for here in terms of expansion of the statute are instances where there is a historic basis. See, groups of people who are singled out for violence perpetrated against them because of who they are. I don’t know if we have the same historical record to say members of our military have been targeted in the same way that people who are African American, people who are Jewish, people who are gay, have been targeted over the many years.” (minute 73:00-74:00)

Based on Holder’s testimony, it is clear that the law would not protect white victims who were attacked because of their race by racial minorities. Holder’s testimony explicitly excluded prosecution of the gay activist who attacks a Christian minister or priest because of his sermon on homosexuality, but the legislation protects the gay activist when he is attacked. This is a dangerous development to our laws and our nation. One of the most fundamental principles in the founding of this nation was that all are created equal. A bloody Civil War was fought to sustain it. No group enjoys privileged status over the other. Once the Department can decide to protect certain individuals for crimes, and not others, those not protected will lose faith in the system. Loss of faith in the system is more than a simple inconvenience. Confidence that laws are enforced fairly and equally preserves peace and prosperity. Lawlessness ensues when the law is perceived as a weapon against certain groups for the benefit of other groups. It is not enough to simply point to a bundle of statistics or history, or to Matthew Sheppard, to justify unfairness in the law.


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: crime; cw2; doj; hate; obama
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--> This guy has a lot of "insight" into DOJ affairs.
1 posted on 07/02/2009 7:43:35 AM PDT by mudblood
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To: mudblood

Holder’s race laws, make him the second coming of the Nazi regime.


3 posted on 07/02/2009 7:45:14 AM PDT by junta (I am the son of Yacub, who for one welcomes my new overlord Obama.)
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To: mudblood

Hey Holder, who is going to protect you?


4 posted on 07/02/2009 7:45:43 AM PDT by raptor29
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To: raptor29
0bama's civilian Security Apparatus.
5 posted on 07/02/2009 7:47:11 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: mudblood
One of the most fundamental principles in the founding of this nation was that all are created equal. A bloody Civil War was fought to sustain it.

And another may come to restore it.

6 posted on 07/02/2009 7:48:24 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: junta

Holder is Wilhelm Stuckart reborn.


7 posted on 07/02/2009 7:48:50 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: mudblood
Then Holder goes on to list the only groups intended to be protected by the proposed law. This is racial identity politics taking a sinister turn. Holder explicitly says the proposed law only protects classes “where there is a history” of violence against those groups. “What we are looking for here in terms of expansion of the statute are instances where there is a historic basis. See, groups of people who are singled out for violence perpetrated against them because of who they are. I don’t know if we have the same historical record to say members of our military have been targeted in the same way that people who are African American, people who are Jewish, people who are gay, have been targeted over the many years.” (minute 73:00-74:00)

This is clearly and egregiously unconstitutional, but given the current political climate - including SCOTUS - it will probably pass. All you white people jes better watch youself!
8 posted on 07/02/2009 7:49:11 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: mudblood

Henry Bowman, please pick up the white courtesy phone.


9 posted on 07/02/2009 7:49:45 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (I don't believe anything anyone says about anything anymore.)
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To: mudblood
So a white couple mugged, raped and murdered by racist black gangs or LaRaza Hispanics are just a statistic of an unfortunate incident?

Got it.

11 posted on 07/02/2009 7:50:28 AM PDT by poobear
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To: mudblood

This is seriously insane. If any of the senators had any ba&&s they would have thrown him out of the room.

Reverse racism working overtime.


12 posted on 07/02/2009 7:50:28 AM PDT by VicVega (Join Jihad, get captured by the US and resettled in the best places in the world. I love the USA)
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To: raptor29

Holder is a so-called African American - he is protected and angry.


13 posted on 07/02/2009 7:52:24 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: mudblood
XIV Amendment!! EQUAL PROTECTION. Will some GOPer please bring this up in public along with a promise to bring the question to SCOTUS if this abomination becomes law. The GOP seems so enfeebled by the Obama method of constant pressure on all fronts.

Maybe the GOP should consider restructuring the party along the lines of a parliamentary party. Create a shadow govt. Develop a full array of policy alternatives. Nominate a candidate for POTUS this summer whose only job will be preparing for 2012 and being the daily visible opposition to Obama. The Dems are both restrucutring American govt AND running a permanent campaigm. It's time for the GOP to do something outside the box.

14 posted on 07/02/2009 7:52:38 AM PDT by xkaydet65
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To: mudblood

What would it take to prove a historical pattern of violence against white folks?


15 posted on 07/02/2009 7:53:11 AM PDT by The Toll
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To: mudblood

If it doesn’t protect whites and ministers, or anyone else, then it denies equal protection of the law. Hello?


16 posted on 07/02/2009 7:55:48 AM PDT by popdonnelly (The Democrats have returned to their game of supporting totalitarian regimes. Now they're muslim.)
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To: mudblood

“Whites and Ministers will not be protected by proposed hate crimes legislation”

If anything, they will be the preferred target. Like Jews in Europe. It’s been this way since the sixties and it’s getting more and more overt.


17 posted on 07/02/2009 7:56:08 AM PDT by Niuhuru (Anger means your spirit isn't broken)
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To: SlipKid77
"Holder is a TRAITOR."

For someone to be a Traitor, they would have had to have been on our side in the first place. With Holder, that isn't the case....

18 posted on 07/02/2009 7:56:41 AM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: popdonnelly

This isn’t about making sense, this is about ‘revenge’ against whitey for their ‘crimes’ against humanity.


19 posted on 07/02/2009 7:57:02 AM PDT by Niuhuru (Anger means your spirit isn't broken)
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To: DuncanWaring

“Obama’s civilian Security Apparatus.”

I really look forward to the day that this element attempts to exercise any authority whatsoever in this country. The wheels all come off that day, and that collection of uneducated, undisciplined, misfits won’t know what hit them.


20 posted on 07/02/2009 7:58:10 AM PDT by raptor29
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