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To: nuconvert

Not to deny anything like this happened, but, as I said on a parallel thread, anyone who thinks governmental bodies that are on a vendetta against any Christian institution aren’t going to try to slant this to their advantage aren’t being intellectually honest.


2 posted on 05/20/2009 9:28:28 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: Pyro7480

I think the “according to documents uncovered in the Vatican” kind of takes out the doubt element

I have no idea if the Irish gov’t or its “bodies” have a “vendetta against any Christian institution”


5 posted on 05/20/2009 9:32:59 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: Pyro7480

...It’s true. I was in catholic school in 58-64. Humiliation and beatings, in private, in the classroom, and in the church were almost daily, by nuns and lay teachers. Not by all, as you say. Not a blanket vendetta against the church...


14 posted on 05/20/2009 9:51:46 AM PDT by gargoyle (...66.7% , A good round number...)
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To: Pyro7480

I have a very close family member that endured this type of abuse at a Catholic orphanage in the 50’s. It is good that those individuals who did her harm are long gone as I would relentlessly hunt them down at their nursing homes and strangle them with their own oxygen line. And I would be going easy on them compared to the pain and suffering they inflicted on small children.


15 posted on 05/20/2009 9:51:52 AM PDT by TSgt (Extreme vitriol and rancorous replies served daily. - Mike W USAF)
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To: Pyro7480

I believe that some abuses did take place. I am also convinced the church did hide some of it.

I am not convinced of the magnitude.

Vague comments are made that seem to mix in possible physical abuse (and who knows what minor infractions today constitute that), with abuse of a sexual nature. The result is that the charges sound much more sinister and widespread then they actually are.

I do believe the media and even the government has an agenda that is served by tearing down respect for Churches and thereby Christianity.

I will say, that anyone who can be proven to have done things that are legitimately wrong to these kids, should spend the rest of their lives in prison, if the charges are serious enough. It take an extremely dim view of people who abuse children who have been placed in their custody, as a refuge from abuse at home.


16 posted on 05/20/2009 9:52:29 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Obama is mentally a child of ten. Just remember that when he makes statements and issues policy.)
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