[CatoRenasci]

Indeed. I'm long out (Vietnam era out by late '70s) but without the rough men doing very unpleasant things to very bad people, the thin veneer of civilization would crack tuit suit and people would find their asses raped and/or enslaved. Evil exists. Evil within our own society can be dealt with playing by nicey nice rules almost all, if not all, of the time because it's relatively isolated are rare. Outside, in the big bad world, sometimes it has to be met with its own methods because it will stop at nothing and will use our own adherence to rules as a way to attack us. Make war against us by the rules, and we fight back by the rules. Make war ignoring the rules and be considered literally outside of -- and therefor not entitled to any protection from -- the law.

[Lurking in Kansas]

Indeed. I'm long out (Vietnam era out by late '70s) but without the rough men doing very unpleasant things to very bad people, the thin veneer of civilization would crack tuit suit and people would find their asses raped and/or enslaved. Evil exists. Evil within our own society can be dealt with playing by nicey nice rules almost all, if not all, of the time because it's relatively isolated are rare. Outside, in the big bad world, sometimes it has to be met with its own methods because it will stop at nothing and will use our own adherence to rules as a way to attack us. Make war against us by the rules, and we fight back by the rules. Make war ignoring the rules and be considered literally outside of -- and therefor not entitled to any protection from -- the law.

Indeed.

This is what makes liberals so dangerous... they don't understand this fact.